1998 Citroen Saxo VTS from UK and Ireland - Comments

The differences exterior-wise between the VTS and VTR are the 16v badges and different wheels, although Mk1 VTS' had the same 14" wheels as the VTR until around '99 where they were ditched for the 15" wheels you now see on the Mk2's. Both the VTR and VTS had rear disc brakes and the same suspension setup.

The furio's/westcoasts etc had the same bodykit as the VTR/VTS, but were fitted with different wheels, different suspension setup (they sit higher than the VT* models and have a narrower track) and have drum brakes on the rear.

Octavia owner - (well imagine what it's like admitting to owning a saxo then lol) My engine spec is:

Catcams 708's

Catcams vernier pulleys

Cylinder head modifications (ported & polished, 3-way valve cut outs, larger valves/springs etc)

Magnex full system inc. decat

Milltek 4-2-1 SS manifold

Green enclosed filter

Wayne Schofield ECU remap.

It goes pretty well.

Forgot to add that the rev limit has been raised to 7800rpm.

Which comment says that?

Which comment says what?

This site really needs usernames!

Used to be Octavia vRS owner and is now Nissan Navara owner here LOL. The vRS has gone and in replace of it I have bought a 55 plate pick up truck, so now I don't race things, I just drive over them LOL.

These really are the ultimate cars. Make you feel all important, I bullied a Range Rover Sport the other day. Anyway yes to usernames, and also to the Integra owner, could it not be possible that a exceptional driver in a VTS on a road he knows very well could beat possible any car with a rubbish driver on a road that they did not know at all? I think that's a fair comment. Your Integra is rare as hell though. That gives it a lot of plus points. Mate your Saxo sounds like a beast; get it to Germany.

I agree the driver makes a huge difference, but the guy states that its his brother he is racing in the teg and that his brother can really drive well and he STILL reckons he raped the teg... theres just no chance in the world.

Navara owner (he he) - the 'Ring' is definitely on the cards! Good choice of vehicle BTW. I think EVO mag have one in their fast fleet line-up and they love it.

I've noticed on this site that there is some very over inflated claims by VTS owners on what cars they have beat in a race etc, which could be the case due to being the better driver, knowing the road better etc. Now in the case of a Integra Type-R versus a Saxo VTS with equal drivers and equally knowing the road/track as well as each other, then there will be only one winner (but not by a massive amount like most people would think!) The teg is arguably the greatest FWD car of all time without a doubt and the VTS is also up there as one of the best little hot hatches around, but often gets overlooked due to it's image.

Navara driver here. I was just about to say that, the integra are great cars. I'd love the chance to drive one. My truck is part of a fast fleet? It's not lighting quick, but the quickest pick up except for the American petrol ones. Mines 174bhp rear wheel drive and automatic. Man I love it. Everyone go to Nissan and get a test drive.

How can you compare a vts with an integra, integra is in a totally different league, it keeps up with scoobys, etc on the twisties

A civic vti is a good comparison, but even that is faster.

Integra type R owner here; glad to see some people agreeing with me... vts will not keep up.

Navara owner again. I don't think this argument will ever be solved people. The Integra is awesome. The 160bhp vts driver admitted that, so basically it doesn't matter what other people think. One thing I can say is I don't need to bother about handling on the twisties; I can just drive through everything.

I have a VTR which I'm selling. I was taking it to a dealer today to sell it, but they didn't offer me enough.

Now I usually drive it sensibly, but today I thrashed it as I'm not going to have it much longer anyway. I was coming off a roundabout, and I had to go around a tight bend which leads onto a dual carriage way, floored it in 2nd around the bend and got near 60mph on it, wasn't speeding up anymore, if I backed off the throttle the back end would have gone. There was no tyre squeal and no sign off it losing grip. I think it could have handled another 20bhp pretty easily.

It's not that quick in a straight line, but perfectly acceptable for a 1.6. If you enjoy driving then getting a VTR isn't a bad idea, you'll have fun. As for the VTS keeping up on the twisties with the Integra, I don't really think it would have the power to do so. If the road was really very twisty with short straights, then the VTS may stand a chance.

Navara driver here. Not another one. No standard saxo ever ever ever will keep up with a integra. Its been commented on so much recently and with a saxo driver saying it couldn't that's enough proof. I think it needs to be left alone now. What you upgrading to anyway mate. An integra? Lol. Sorry couldn't resist.

I've already upgraded, to a 318ti.

"I bullied a range rover the other day"

It doesn't matter what you drive, whether it's a Nevara or a Nova, nobody wants their car damaged. I bet you wouldn't have the balls to hit another car with it would you? So I can't understand why it makes you feel so important.