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"Unless you are a stockholder of GM, Ford or Chrysler, should you really care where the "profits" are going?"
It is sad people don't know what profits are used for. They go into development of new car designs.
If there are no profits, there are no new car designs, people buy from other companies, the old car company loses out, then the workers get laid off.
For instance, Ford no longer makes a minivan and their small pickup is dated. It is because they did not have the profits to develop new versions. Instead, the money went to fund UAW pensions, health plans, job banks and inflated salaries for low skill jobs like sweeping ($30 an hour to sweep the floor, no joke.) Good for the UAW workers I guess, but now there are no jobs for their children. Not in the car companies and also not in the industries that young people often get started in... restaurants, clothing stores, hotels, etc...
00:58 I feel people are indirectly bullied or herded more likely into small econobox lineups. I buy by test driving and do buy every few years... The only new element is expecting 100,00 mile warranties before even leaving the lot. No ad hype will ever overcome a written warranty as it's entirely possible to be in a vehicle with sludging engine replacements, failed transmissions even in 2009.
Consumeraffairs.com illustrates issues on imports and domestics. I get a Carfax if there is 5 miles on the odometer. I love buying and hate selling as I know what is done. And buyers nitpick. It is no special feat to rack up high mileage especially highway miles, and I do it, but have been caught in my last new low mileage limited import warranty. Give a 150,000 mile warranty; if it's never honored, where's the manufacturers loss? Saying it's not needed is not getting me back.
"I believe it is terribly sad this person's friend was bullied into buying a Fusion just so he could keep a friend."
I feel bad for all of us, as we all are being "bullied" by the same person, who is telling us we must buy American cars. (American cars, manufactured in Mexico)
But for all we know, he could be a Ford salesman!
"I feel bad for your friend... He's made a big mistake. That car is gonna seem great for the first few thousand miles, but then it's going to start breaking like all domestics do."
Well, our Fusion is now 4 years old and nothing has broken yet. Our Honda was literally disintegrating at 36 months (just as the puny warranty ran out). I will never buy another Japanese vehicle.
Talk about taking a statement out of context:
You list the following as a question asked:
"Unless you are a stockholder of GM, Ford or Chrysler, should you really care where the "profits" are going?"
When the actual question read:
Unless you are a stockholder of GM, Ford or Chrysler, should you really care where the "profits" are going as long as they are providing good jobs for Americans?
Please, don't use my words for your propaganda.
I agree it's not over quality of the vehicles. It likely will be the drop of quality of life with over 5000 domestic autoworkers out of work in my town in July. Bringing in cheap labor low benefits is not going to replace cheap import wages vs what was there. I am going to have a tough time selling my home; you need a nice job to afford it.
"Please, don't use my words for your propaganda."
I apologize for taking your words out of context. Sorry.
Apology accepted.
You can lease a 2009 Accord for 24 months for only 99 dollars a month. That's cheap and yet someone is not renewing? That's a drop in the bucket. Just barely drive them, and keep turning them in and get another.
"Well, our Fusion is now 4 years old and nothing has broken yet. Our Honda was literally disintegrating at 36 months (just as the puny warranty ran out). I will never buy another Japanese vehicle."
The dealer I bought my Civic from offers a 5-year, 100,000 mile powertrain warranty.
Cars cost more to add the extended warranty; it's built into your payment somehow.
No, it's standard. I haven't paid any extra for it. It's the only Honda dealer that does so, it's not a company-wide thing. I don't really get why everyone says Japanese cars have awful warranties at 3yrs. 36,000 miles. The Ford Focus I owned before I purchased my Civic had the same exact warranty. In fact, every car I've ever owned, import or domestic, has had a 3yr. 36,000 mile warranty.
"The dealer I bought my Civic from offers a 5-year, 100,000 mile powertrain warranty."
You'll need it. Our Civic was totally shot at 40,000 miles.
On Wednesday a friend I work with asked me to give him a ride to the office because his 2007 Accord was in the shop for repairs (again). He was so impressed with my 2006 Fusion he plans to trade for one.
Ugghhh!
The Fusion salesman strikes again!
I used to like Ford Fusions, but now I wouldn't buy one due to the shameless exaggeration of their "greatness" in these reviews.
In fact, I may trade my domestic for an import, just to tweak these import bashers.
And I DO own a domestic.