1993 Plymouth Voyager from North America - Comments

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7th Sep 2000, 08:21

"Okay but mediocre transmission"

What things have gone wrong with the car?

* Transmission has died three times ($1200 + $1500).

* Glove box/storage compartment on the passenger side won't stay closed.

* Rear windshield wiper died.

* Sliding door won't close right - bumps cause it to go slightly ajar.

* Radio is faulty - it comes on when it wants to.

General comments?

* Read that Chrysler transmissions used stamped internal parts for transmission rather than machined parts, so the corporation could cut costs.

* Very poor that Chrysler hasn't redesigned the transmission after 10 years - just covers up mistakes with more marketing campaigns.

* Read that other Chrysler models use the same transmission with similar problems ('89-'95 Spirit/Acclaim/LeBaron, '89-'93 Dynasty/New Yorker, '89-'97 Minivan, '90-'93 Daytona, '93-'94 Shadow/Sundance, '95-'97 Cirrus/Stratus/Breeze, '96-'97 Sebring Convertible, '95-'96 Sebring/Avenger, '95-'96 Eagle Talon).

* LESSON: IF YOU GET YOUR TRANSMISSION FIXED, GO TO AAMCO FOR THE LIFETIME GUARANTEE!! YOU'LL NEED IT SINCE TRANSMISSION FAILURE IS A STRUCTURAL DESIGN FOR CHRYSLER!!


8th May 2001, 11:47

I have replaced two tranmissions within 35,000 miles, that sucks.

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23rd May 2001, 17:21

I have a relative that has replaced the transmission a total of 4 times. The mini-van is only 8 years old and in addition to the transmission problems it is basically falling apart! Even when the outside is washed it still looks pretty bad.

We own a 90 Grand Voyager and we have had to replace our transmission once already.

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11th Oct 2001, 21:20

As far as the transmission problems, I will say that the 4-speed automatic is VERY poorly built, and this is the word from a transmission veteran. However, the 3-speed is a lot better because it's not constructed of all clutches like the four speed.

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17th Jan 2002, 20:05

I am about to buy a Dodge Mini Ram Van Long (which is a Chrysler Grand Voyager). I think, I hope, that Chrysler just isn't capable of building a high-tech car - I see problems with ALL of these cars, but not with the combination I'm about to buy: A simple and bulletproof 2.5-litre four-banger with 8 valves, 97 brake, and a manual 5-shifter... As soon as automatics, leccy windows, V6-engines come into the game? Chrysler fails... I'll keep you posted, see how my "technique" works out.

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15th Jul 2002, 11:56

I own a 93 Voyager LE and bought in new. In 96 Chrysler replaced the transmission under warranty. Then in 98 (now out of warranty), I had it rebuilt for $1367 including a 1year/12,000 mile warranty. Exactly 2 years and 35,000 miles later, that tranny failed. I was so frustrated that I de-registered the van since I already own 2 other cars. Now my daughter will be driving soon so she will get my car and I'll get the van after replacing the tranny for the third time. I'm really upset at Plymouth for marketing such a poor transmission, but I look at it this way, where can I buy a used car (or van) for the cost of another rebuild? The answer is I can't! This time I'm taking it to AAMCO. Over the phone I was quoted a "worst case" price of $1600. For another $495, I get a lifetime / unlimited mileage warranty. That comes to $2095 plus tax compared to the dealership who quoted me $2233 with a 1 year / 12,000 mile warranty. Let the buyer beware and I urge every Voyager owner who has had or is having problems to write letters and email to Plymouth. There's power in numbers and your voice does matter.

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23rd Oct 2002, 17:38

I have just replaced my Chrysler 4-spd automatic transmisson for $1900, including labor. The transaxle blew at 60560 miles (better than the average). Same one used with all 3.3 liter front wheel drive Chrysler cars and minivans. Read the fine print on all "lifetime" warranty jobs. And look for omissions in the writing. Most shops mean lifetime parts replacement only, or limited services. Labor is the big thing with a car. $60-$70 per hour is the going rate and it goes up every year. Also, most transmission shops that do an exchange of your whole transmission, charge you the full parts replacement cost, including the core, which they get credit for from their transmission supplier. If you go directly to the supplier they will still charge you full retail for it! I know because I have been thru all of this crap twice with Chrysler junk transmissions. There will not be 3rd time!

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11th Dec 2002, 22:33

I own a 1993 voyager 4 banger and my timing belt broke at 98,000 miles. It has not run the same since. When I got it back it didn't have as much power and would stall out occasionally. After about one month it started running poorly. It seems as if it is out of time because it will barely move and then stall out. any ideas??/contact me at rip32369@aol.com.

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12th Jun 2003, 21:39

We own a '93 Voyager that we bought new. We decided to buy a van because it seemed safe and practical for our family of 4. It began stalling (while driving it) about 6 months after we got it. The stalling was sporadic and the dealership could never "duplicate" the problem, so they never found out what was wrong. It only has about 60,000 actual miles on it because we work locally. It continues to stall off and on to this day and has had two transmissions replaced and has been taken to three different Chrysler dealerships. We have even contacted Chrysler corporation, which got us one of the transmissions half-paid for. I know there is no cure, but I am so happy to have found others with the same problem (not happy that it is happening to you, just glad to know we are not alone!) Also, my husband and I have vowed to never buy another Chrysler product. Chrysler should have been honest with us, and admitted it was a design or manufacturing problem - after all it is a very dangerous situation to stall right in the middle of traffic or at a red light! Thanks for listening.

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5th Jul 2003, 11:31

The stalling has been a problem with my 93 Voyager for about 4 years now. It is a very frustrating problem because like previously stated, it is very sporadic and can't really be traced by a mechanic! If anyone knows what the problem might be, any help would be greatly appreciated. This is a very dangerous problem since it likes to happen while driving in sometimes heavy traffic, or in wide turns, since the steering locks as a result.

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27th Sep 2004, 23:38

I also bought a 1993 Plymouth Grand Voyager new and also have had to replace the transmission 3 times. The first was under warranty at 52,000 miles. the 2nd at 104,000 miles cost me $1900.00 and the third at AAMCO for $2400.00 at 142,000 miles My father always had good things to say about Chrysler products, but after my experience with my Plymouth, never again. Other problems: Steering, Springs?, rear wiper, air-conditioning 3 times, serpentine belt tension pulley broke off engine, and now the driver side seat belt will not work. And each time I took the van in to have the problem at the time fixed the service tech told me, "this is typical of these vans.

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23rd Oct 2004, 13:04

I also have a 1993 plymouth voyager it is also stalling on me. I have four small kids this is dangerous. I was turning out onto a main road and the van stalled I had my kids in the car and I was scared to death. traffic was coming at me about 45-50 miles a hour. I freaked out for a minute and finally got my hazards on and they were able to go around. they should be sued for making faulty trans. I wonder how many people have got killed from being stalled in traffic. email me if you like at c_summers001@hotmail.com.

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9th Nov 2004, 16:11

I'm amazed to know how many people out there has same problems with their 93 Dodge Caravan. I bought it new in 93 and had experienced stalling problems sometime in 1999 and 2000. Most of the time is when my wife is driving it. She calls me, I go over and just restart it. I never took it to the dealer. I've ask people who drive same car every time I got a chance to chat, but none of them experienced it so far at that time. I still have it to this date, the stalling never happen again. No transmission problem so far. I do most of the maintenance. I only took it to the dealer several times for the recall. My AC was short cycling, I added freon and now it's super cool. I'm currently observing if how long will the AC hold. I have 87K+ on it and looking forward with the transmission issues I've been reading. It's 13 years old so I plan on just giving it away if it gives up. It was our very first family car, I bought it in Charleston, SC. Drove it to Great Lakes, IL then to San Diego, CA. Shipped it to Honolulu. Shipped it back to Norfolk, VA and back here again in Honolulu. I also ended up buying a used 1998 while in VA. Drove it to San Diego via Canada and shipped it here in Honolulu. This one starts to frustrate me, the little lights on the dashboard started blinking after I replaced the battery when it suddenly died while my wife went to a library. As of today, the engine service soon light came on too thus I'm browsing the internet for advice. My belief that cars last depending on how you take care of them seem to be not working for my 98 Plymouth Voyager. Mahalo to all of you.

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17th Mar 2005, 10:59

I have a 1993 Plymouth Grand Voyager that was purchased new. Within six months of purchase, the transmission did require replacement. Since that time, we've had no mechanical problems with the vehicle other than the usual wear of an older vehicle. We've put 140,000+ miles on the vehicle and I bless her every day for giving us great service. We've never experience the stalling problems reported in other reviews.

My complaint is the huge chunks of paint that have popped off, mainly from the top of the vehicle. It seems there was a poor job of priming these vehicles causing the paint to not adhere.

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5th May 2005, 12:32

I bought my '93 Voyager for $400.00 last year (2004). So my expectations weren't very high to begin with. However it is interesting that the only problems I've had are having to replace the door, give up on the rear wiper, deciding that the radio has the personality of a cat and that it will come and go as it pleases, and lastly, a transmission that physically causes the car to lurch when it shifts. My question may sound a bit naive, but how do I check the transmission fluid and add more if I need to?

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10th Feb 2006, 23:49

Chrysler can't build, repair or diagnose their transmissions. Also, they can't seem to look you in the eye when you bring it back for the fourth time. They have no remorse about being such a poor car and they do not stand behind their product. I give them an F- in all areas. I will buy elsewhere from now on.

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