2007 Toyota Camry CE from North America - Off Topic Comments

That's interesting. Camry drivers and passengers are over 50% more likely to die in crashes than those driving an average car too. Does that mean Camrys roll over too!!

<<That's interesting. Camry drivers and passengers are over 50% more likely to die in crashes than those driving an average car too. Does that mean Camrys roll over too!!>.

Proof please, since this is obviously more disinformation being spread by the domestic crowd. The Camry has a five star crash rating and has multiple airbags for every passenger.

Safety statistics DO indicate that you are 50% more likely to die in a Camry than in the average car, and TWICE as likely to die in a Camry than in a Buick.

What the stats do not state is that the Buick travels at an average speed of 30 miles per hour--get driven 8,000 miles a year--the average buyer is in their 60's and the car sits in the basement of a senior apartment complex... all this happens while young people and families buy camry's and drive around putting many mile on them.. simple facts make simple truths... Did you really think Iraq had weapons of mass destruction... I bet you thought so because a report said it did. If you sit back and think about demographics and things these statistics could be deciphered..

<<Safety statistics DO indicate that you are 50% more likely to die in a Camry than in the average car, and TWICE as likely to die in a Camry than in a Buick.>.

Exactly how does a car with a five star crash rating accomplish this?

You can't simply say MORE people die in Camrys because there are MORE of them on the road.

You have to take crash data from an individual crash.

A 5-star crash rating is meaningless in regard to the likelihood of death or injury in a particular type of car. The tests determining the star ratings are extremely limited and very atypical of real world collisions. There are references to the website on the Toyota Tundra site referring to the data showing how poorly Camry fares (50% below average) in protecting its passengers. The domestic Buick is rated as 50% LESS likely to kill its occupants, making it fully TWICE as safe as Camry.

<<A 5-star crash rating is meaningless in regard to the likelihood of death or injury in a particular type of car. The tests determining the star ratings are extremely limited and very atypical of real world collisions. There are references to the website on the Toyota Tundra site referring to the data showing how poorly Camry fares (50% below average) in protecting its passengers. The domestic Buick is rated as 50% LESS likely to kill its occupants, making it fully TWICE as safe as Camry.>>

I see, so when it comes to foreign cars tests are meaningless and not "real world" yet when it comes to sacred Buick suddenly the rating is 100% accurate.

You have to PROVE to me that the Camry is "50% less safe" than a Buick, and you have not. ALL you are doing is simply stating the frequency of accidents and, given over 400K Camrys are sold per year, that means that there are more Camrys on the road.

Using your logic, I could say a Wartburg or a Fiat is the safest car on the road in America since the frequency of accidents is so low - there aren't many out there.

You know what? Even if those statistics are correct, I'd be embarrassed to be seen in a Buick. I'll take any Toyota car ever made over a Buick. Besides, you never know when an accident is coming your way, no two accidents are the same, and there are far too many variables to consider for me to worry about getting killed in a Camry. It has a 5 star rating; enough said. It's top of the line in safety as it is in every other possible category for cars. Keep your Buick, I'll drive a much better looking, sportier, and much better overall vehicle in the Toyota Camry.

I'm 18 and I'll drive the "grandpa" buick over a camery anyday.

They look better and the camery looks like a girl car. With some nice rims or even the factory rims (shined up) and a nice tint a Buick Park Avenue (which I own) or LeSabre looks better than a bland powerless Camry.

I'd be embarrassed to be seen in a Camry, especially those bland beige colored (there's so many of them) Camrys and I'm 23. I wouldn't really want a Buick either, but would take one over the Toyota. I'd then trade it in on a Nissan or Honda. Toyota might have the engineering part down, but their styling, yuck it leaves something to be desired. The Camry has always been an ugly car with the exception of the mid 90's ones which are so bland there's nothing to dislike.

Someone told me that the designer who had designed the Pontiac Aztek had left GM and gone to work for Toyota. I thought they were kidding until I saw the new Camrys.

"I'll drive a much better looking, sportier, and much better overall vehicle in the Toyota Camry."

Ha ha ha ha!! A sporty Camry?? You must live someplace where there aren't many cars around for comparison.

<<I'd be embarrassed to be seen in a Camry, especially those bland beige colored (there's so many of them) Camrys and I'm 23. I wouldn't really want a Buick either, but would take one over the Toyota. I'd then trade it in on a Nissan or Honda. Toyota might have the engineering part down, but their styling, yuck it leaves something to be desired. The Camry has always been an ugly car with the exception of the mid 90's ones which are so bland there's nothing to dislike.>>

You're not the target market for the Camry so it really doesn't matter what you say. Obviously over 400,000 people per year disagree with you.

"Sporty Camry" is an oxymoron, just like "Toyota quality".

<<Someone told me that the designer who had designed the Pontiac Aztek had left GM and gone to work for Toyota. I thought they were kidding until I saw the new Camrys.>.

No, you heard wrong. He designed the new Dodge Caliber.