2007 Toyota Tundra SR5 from North America - All Comments

10:14:

Here are the facts about Toyota's 'massive' engine sludge problem with the Tundra: As of July of this year, there were TWENTY engine failures reported. That's all. TWENTY. And Toyota replaced the entire engine.

Why don't you mention the THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THOUSAND Grand Cherokees that were just recalled recently? Did that one slip by you? I guess all your attention was focused on the 20 Tundras which are already back on the road with a brand new engine.

Here's another fact: the Tundra is a better truck than anything Ford, GM, or any other manufacturer has yet dreamed about making, and Toyota is the highest quality manufacturer of cars and trucks anywhere on the planet. I'm sure your '88 GMC, has had many repairs done to it.

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Here's another fact: the Tundra is a better truck than anything Ford, GM, or any other manufacturer has yet dreamed about making, and Toyota is the highest quality manufacturer of cars and trucks anywhere on the planet. I'm sure your '88 GMC, has had many repairs done to it.

It's a fact that this is your opinion driven by hatred of domestics. You're sure the GMC has had many repairs done to it because of your blind hatred of American products. You don't know anything about this man's truck.

Woooooow, great argument, once again. Look at all of the technical specifications the commenter used to "prove" why Toyota's are better. "They're better because I like them and Ford's are crap because I don't like them." Wow, what infalibillity! How are Toyota's the highest quality?

I suppose they're higher quality because...

They have thinner frame rails.

They have smaller frame rails in width.

They have smaller frame rails in height.

They have fewer cross-members holding the frame together.

The cross-members that they do have, have holes cut all across them.

They have smaller and weaker front control arms.

They have smaller and weaker hub carriers.

They have lighter and weaker material engines (aluminum)

They have thinner and smaller leaf springs.

They use car transmissions in their smaller trucks, and put six speeds in their bigger trucks so there's more gears to tear up.

They have smaller axle shafts.

They have smaller axle housings.

They have thinner bumpers.

They can't pull as much, and are not used to pull as much.

They can't handle payloads beyond 600 pounds without squatting to the ground (small leaf springs)

Yep, they're definitely better.

The domestics are crap because...

They have thicker frame rails.

They have wider frame rails.

They have taller frame rails.

They have heavier duty control arms.

They have heavier duty hub carriers.

They have thicker leaf springs, and Ford's are.5 inches wider.

They have bigger axle shafts.

They have bigger axle housings.

They have many more cross-members. Most cross-members are large pipe-shaped box rails that are welded to the frame rails - Ford welds on both the inside and outside of their fully boxed frame.

They have engines made of extremely hard, heavy, and heat tolerant metal (cast iron)

They have heavier duty transmissions.

They can handle at least 2000-3000 pounds in their bed without squatting all the way down.

They can pull multiple tons and have been used for this purpose for decades.

They have heavier and thicker bumpers.

They can be used to do very heavy work and still run on original drive trains for 30 years.

Yep, they're junk alright. I am very confident that the person with 88 GMC has had to replace nothing on their drivetrain. My Chevy is 10 years older (78) and has everything original underneath the sheet metal and was used to do strenuous work most of its life, even pulling six tons or hauling two tons. It never failed my father and got him through hard times.

I swear this site is the twilight zone. Up is down, black is white, aluminum is tougher than cast iron, and trucks are tougher because they have less steel in their chassis. Tacoma's are real trucks because they can barely pull 3,500 pounds and domestics are wanna-be trucks because they can only pull 10,000 to 12,000 pounds. I guess semi-trucks are really crappy trucks because they have triple the steel in their frames and can only pull 50,000 pounds?

20:38 Yet another long chant about thick frame rails and axle housings that proves nothing. Those frame rails and axle housings look nice sitting in the junkyard, though, I must admit. Meanwhile the Toyota, with it's 'paper thin' framerails, is still on the road, taking abuse.

And, once again, you have attempted to sidestep the facts I presented. You fail to mention the hideous number of recalls I mention for the domestics, because you can't deal with the actual facts that prove you wrong every time.

You type a long list of parts you believe to be heavy duty. Too bad the company that puts them together can't make them work for very long without falling apart, or provide a decent engine to haul them around.

My friend just had his first trouble ever with an 1999 Tacoma that he beats the hell out of; a rear axle seal leaking. He went to TWELVE junkyards, looking for a spare rear axle, and did not find ONE Tacoma in any of them. Not even one that had been in an accident. Plenty of Fords and Chevys from the same year though, with their 'thick frames'. What a riot.

"Here are the facts about Toyota's 'massive' engine sludge problem with the Tundra: As of July of this year, there were TWENTY engine failures reported. That's all. TWENTY. And Toyota replaced the entire engine."

20 ENGINE FAILURES... ARE YOU DREAMING? HERE IS A PETITION OF TOYOTA OWNERS WHO EXPERIENCED SLUDGED ENGINES, ASKING TOYOTA TO TAKE ACTION:

http://www.petitiononline.com/TMC2003/petition.html

THERE ARE A LOT MORE THAN 20 FAILURES. IT LOOKS A LOT MORE LIKE AN EPIDEMIC TO ME.

"Why don't you mention the THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THOUSAND Grand Cherokees that were just recalled recently? Did that one slip by you?"

PROBLEMS WITH ANY VEHICLE ARE BAD, REGARDLESS OF MANUFACTURER. I WILL NOT MAKE EXCUSES FOR JEEP, OR ANYBODY ELSE. BUT, HOW ABOUT THE 2.2 MILLION VEHICLES RECALLED LAST YEAR FOR TOYOTA? DID THAT ONE SLIP BY YOU? HOW ABOUT THE FACT THAT TOYOTA WAS THE INDUSTRY LEADER IN RECALLS LAST YEAR... DID THAT ONE SLIP BY YOU TOO?

"Here's another fact: the Tundra is a better truck than anything Ford, GM, or any other manufacturer has yet dreamed about making, and Toyota is the highest quality manufacturer of cars and trucks anywhere on the planet."

OH REALLY?

11:09, Yes really. Check your 'facts' again. GM, Ford, and Dodge each had more vehicles affected with recalls last year, in fact in any year, than Toyota ever has. NUMBER of recalls, and # of affected vehicles are two different things. Toyota is still the best.

Tacoma man, I've said in several past comments, that the domestics have had more recalls than the imports to this point. But I have also said that the domestics have produced and sold much more than the imports over the past 20 years.

The 3.3 million engines recalled for engine sludge is just foreshadowing of what will happen to Toyota as it takes GM's place. These people are not perfect beings, and they will start to make mistakes and corruption will set in as it did with the big three. When the imports get their chance to mass produce in the numbers that the domestics have done for decades, they too will have recalls out the wazoo.

How does a Toyota take abuse better when it has a thinner chassis? What is this abuse? Oh yeah, you're "flying" through the air. Your Tacoma is light and no one ever buys one to pull massive amounts of weight or to haul massive amounts of weight. Why don't you name some numbers of pounds that you have moved with your big, tough Tacoma? Oh, that's right, you've pulled 3,500 pounds. Ooooooooh, such abuse. How does it do it? I bet a washing machine sitting in your bed would also be considered abuse.

The late 90's Tacoma's didn't sell near at what the domestics sold 10 years ago. Of course there are more domestics trucks in the junk yard, some of them are actually used for work, and millions more have been produced over that past century. Don't you know that Ford has made 48,000,000 F-150's since the 1940's? There's probably barely 1,000,000 Tundra's on the face of the Earth, yet there are 47,000,000 more F-150's on the planet, and you wonder why there are more in the junk yard?

Your Tacoma doesn't scare me nor does it impress me. It's a tiny truck that weighs as little as a car that has nothing underneath it to re-enforce it. I don't care how many miles you have on it or how much it is worth. The value of imports is driven up because the general public listen to idiotic commercials, and are too clueless to ever look underneath a truck (or car) and see what is holding it together.

As I have said before, I can drop my plastic Radio-controlled monster truck from 10 feet in the air and not break one thing on it. That doesn't mean it's tougher than a life-size truck, that means it is lighter. If the "abuse" you are putting this Tacoma through is flopping through the air, then being light and having thin metal components is an advantage, but does not make it tough.

20:38 Yeah, OK. A domestic truck that runs for 30 years on its original drivetrain.

Even if you put only 15,000 miles a year on, that's 450,000 miles in 30 years, and most people put on more miles annually than that. It would take about 5 Fords or Chevy's to get that many miles in 30 years.

See, the thing is, people buy Toyota's to actually drive them every day. It's not a '79 Chevy truck that has sat in a barn under a tarp for 25 years, and then you claim how good of a truck it is.

Edmunds.com has an interesting evaluation of 2007 Silverado, Tundra and Titan pick-ups. I think this re-affirms that almost all of the 2007 pick-ups are quite good.

Here is a link to the full Edmunds.com article:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=119281

Well, I guess we Toyota people have been fools for thinking that even though every single Toyota we've ever owned has had almost zero problems and lasted as long as we kept them have really been deceived. Indeed- Ford and Chevy have been building superior vehicles all along.

All those GM and Ford people who had their cars in the shops all the time were really just kidding. We poor problem-free Toyota people must have been fooled somehow. ALL those magazine and consumer reports are WRONG. Toyotas really aren't reliable, not perfect reliability like they show... why it must be a conspiracy. My Tacoma really can't pull a trailer and bed full of industrial equipment because those thin frame rails might bend. I guess after 220,000 miles I'd better stop driving 80MPH too since surely aluminum must be an inferior metal to make engines out of. I think I'm going to write to MTD and tell them that they're wrong: they need to start making all their weed wackers and lawn mowers out of old-fahioned cast iron. That and that Toyota needs to bring back the hand cranks instead of those good-for-nothing electric starters.

I can throw a toy in the air and it will break because it is made out of plastic. They should make them out of cast iron as well. My argument proves just how BAD toyotas really are.

Hmmm...who won the 2007 Motor Trend Truck of The Year Award? Seems likes it was the Chevy Silverado... NOT the Tundra! One might also ask that if the Tundra is so great, why then do each of the domestic truck makers sell more than Toyota?

"NUMBER of recalls, and # of affected vehicles are two different things. Toyota is still the best."

Regarding # of affected vehicles, Toyota recalled more vehicles then it sold in 2005. That's not good for an auto maker many of you proclaim is infallible. Certainly the American automakers are not infallible either, but I have not seen anybody make that claim.

At the end of the day, it is still Toyota having massive engine failures and doing public mea-culpas as the precarious myth of their quality is shattered. I feel sorry for anybody who has a late model Toyota, including a number of friends of mine who have lost thousands of dollars watching in astonishment, as the Toyota's they had been convinced were beyond reproach, self destructed before their eyes.

Bottom line is this: All you Ford and Chevy people can just keep right pulling out the very few and rare occurrences of Toyotas having problems, and believe that somehow, some way that your GM or Ford is better.

You can let your old-fashioned patriotism get in the way of facts all day long, which is ironic since your cars and trucks are mostly made in Mexico, Canada, and Korea, or assembled in some economically crumbling rust belt state using Chinese, Mexican, Brazilian, and yes - even Indian produced parts.

Meanwhile, none of you have even come close to convincing me that anything Ford or GM makes is anything close to being a product that I would personally trust to get me to work day in day out without problems. They are still what they have always been, which are cheaply manufactured, disposable products designed by penny-pincher bean counters in Detroit. Remember - the mantra of Detroit has been "planned obsolescence", meaning the idea of your car wearing out prematurely is a planned part of the program.

I'll keep right on driving my Toyota truck made in California with 65% domestically produced parts and assembled by American workers.

I also firmly believe in free trade and the ability to choose a superior, well engineered product. So with that said, adios amigos... Time to go to work and drive my Tacoma that gives me ZERO trouble year in, year out.

I may be wrong, but a Tacoma owner with a 200,000 mile vehicle may not be able to afford a loaded Silverado F250 Series to even comment with first hand ownership.

I am not able to comment on a Tacoma, only a Tundra I test drove and then bought a fully loaded Silverado to date with zero repairs... oil changes and filters only. Great truck and I highly recommend one.

Motor Trend admitted that if they had chosen the Tundra as winner mayhem would arise!! WWIII. Didn't Motor Trend also say the Malibu was car of the year '97? Ford Aerostar '93? Thunderbird '02? My point exactly!

Thank you 10:53.

I TRULY get a kick over how many people have 'friends' and 'neighbors' with all these bad Toyota's. LOL. That way, if you ask them specific info. about the 'bad Toyota', and they know nothing, it is because it was their 'neighbor's car.

Boy, I'll tell you, almost everyone with a bad Toyota shows up here. I have yet to meet one dissatisfied Toyota owner in REALITY, where I can actually talk to yet another of the millions of we Toyota owners that never have problems, but these guys online, where no proof is possible, have got me convinced (that was called sarcasm).

Sure, the Ranger is awesome. Must be why Ford's decided to stop making it. Ha ha. There's enough material here for a good comedy album for someone.

Toyota beats the hell out of Ford and Chevy every day with every car they make, and all of their small trucks, so the only hope these Ford owners have to cling to is F-150 sales. It's not even a good truck, it just sells a lot. Wait till Toyota pulls the rug out from under them on that one too.