2007 Toyota Tundra SR5 from North America - All Comments

OMG! Will this end. People keep on bringing in JD Power and associates. Like anyone cares when buying a car. They also go with first year initial quality, so after year one who knows what my grandparents really go through with their Buick or Mercury.

As for electronics, I can imagine this world totally different without JVC, Panasonic, Sony, and Onkyo to name a few and it does not look pretty. Go on... go on... tell me more... well I remember my young years ridding in my parents GM cars and when I saw my friends parents cars that were Japanese, they would have our GM car beat and it was half the price. People over look things these days, and compare features to features, as to how many cup holders my car has and how much plastic do I get on the outside of my doors.

It is of no surprise that American cars are scrambling to survive in my opinion.

Recently a coworker asked me to give him a ride to a dealership to pick up his 2007 Tundra from the Toyota service department because it had been recalled. I gave him a ride in my new Silverado. On the way to the dealership he asked if I could make a detour to the local Chevy dealership. When I asked him why, he said that even after a few miles riding in my new Silverado, he was so impressed that he wanted to buy a Silverado himself!

What all these super-nationalist arguments boils down to is that there's a whole slew of people in here who do not comprehend modern capitalistic economics. No - the US doesn't invent everything. The CD and DVD player were invented in Japan and the Netherlands. HDTV in Japan. So was the modern VCR. Yes - the US has invented many things, but so have other countries that have contributed technologies that are now manufactured by companies all over the world. That's why companies like RCA, Ford, Toshiba, Sony, and Bosch have licensing agreements with companies that utilize their technologies.

In regards to Japanese companies "stealing" us technology, well history shows that in Post WW2 Japan, many US companies actually gave patented information to Japanese companies in order to jump-start their economy. A economically successful world is a safer one, and this tactic was used in the case of Japan by providing them with the knowledge to do so. This was a long time ago and since then they have invented many original inventions. My point being is that the Japanese didn't "steal" anything.

You can't blame people for buying anything NOT made in the US as being unpatriotic. Simply put, the US is a capitalist country and by virtue of being one, we also exercise our right to free trade. If you don't like living in a capitalistic country, then perhaps you could suggest a better system.

In regards to those poor Southern states that you refer to as being victimized by Japanese companies, well seeing as how the Southern US now has less than 2% unemployment, which is the lowest in the country, I fail to see how building new plants there is causing a problem as you suggest. It isn't just Japanese companies setting up shop either. American, German, Dutch, and Korean companies are doing so as well. Simply put, the area costs much less do do business and by providing tax cuts, the state governments of these states encourage more businesses to move to their region, which in the long term creates economic opportunity and prosperity for the citizens who live there. In this respect, you are completely incorrect. My whole family lives in that region and are doing VERY well.

What we're dealing with now is a world economy that relies on a multi-national effort. Expect to see more products being manufactured in numerous countries, and sporting badges that have less to do with the original national origin, and more to do with the actual end product itself.

Welcome to the modern economy.

As for the guy still clinging to a tiny smattering of engine sludge problems from the late 90's, and holding up the copy of JD power and their first year "initial" quality; if this is your proof of how the fact that the vast majority of us driving Toyotas never have any problems with them are wrong, you still haven't convinced anybody of anything other than that you can cherry-pick.

Claiming that Toyotas are really just bad cars, and we who drive them somehow cover it up, is the real "myth" here.

Great comparison however I compared a new Tundra to a new much stronger Ford F250 and/or a 3/4 ton Silverado diesel... much superior in my opinion than the Tundra. The Ford F Series certainly include the F-150 but you neglected to review the complete larger line up which is perhaps why Tundra cannot compete. Take a test drive in a Ford F-250 and then get back to us. I did and forgot Tundras.

21:57 The round and round arguments on this site have no bearing on what is actually happening with Toyota and GM. It's the same 5 or 10 people writing in about how bad Toyota is. It's easy to see. The phrasing is the same in each of their comments, the only thing that usually changes is that their neighbor has a different Toyota that breaks down in each of their comments.

I used to read here for actual feedback about vehicles I might purchase, now I do just for kicks. I don't care how many stories people write about the 'bad' Toyota that they've obviously never owned. In reality, Toyota is known for making the best vehicles on the road. Most people understand this and have made Toyota #1. Most are sick of GM and Ford's poor quality cars, which is why Honda and Toyota cars outsell domestics every single year.

Americans don't accept change well. They usually stick to what is familiar, yet after 20 or 30 years, they've become so sick of having major problems with domestics that they have made a foreign automaker the best seller in the United States. It's no surprise to a Toyota owner. We all knew it was coming.

If you make good cars for long enough, the majority of the public will eventually recognize it and stop buying crappy ones. Hence Toyota outselling GM. The same thing WILL happen with the truck market, too. I couldn't care less who believes it and who doesn't, it'll happen. It will take a while, but it'll happen. It's as simple as this; if you drive a Ford or a GM, then you are driving something inferior in quality to a Toyota. Arguing that fact doesn't change anything. That's the way it is.

17:54 Well, that's a perfect example of the decision making process of anyone that would buy a Silverado before a Tundra. They ride smooth and therefore they must be a good truck, so they buy one. Only to find that it's worth nothing after about 3 years, and 5 or 6 years later that good old GM quality (or lack of it) shines through and everything starts to break. Shortly after that their low quality body assembly becomes evident; the tailgate sticks or won't shut, the doors sag and don't line up right, the fenders rattle, etc.

I know a person who's power windows on a new GM stopped working, he took the driver's door panel off himself, and there was a crushed beer can inside the door. Good old GM quality control. If you GAVE me a GM truck, I'd drive it to the nearest cliff and push it off. (Assuming it would get me that far without breaking down).

16:59,

If you had actually read my entire comparison, you would see that the comparisons are between a F-150 and a Tundra. An F-150 and an F-250 are not in the same class, so why should you expect me to make a comparison between a Tundra and a F-250, or 350, or Semi truck for that matter?

The point being that at this point in time, Toyota makes a F-150 class truck, which at this point is actually more powerful and in many industry writer's opinion more durable.

If Toyota decides to make an F-250 class truck, then perhaps we can compare the two. But at this point in time, Toyota has trumped the F-150. We can go on and on about some massive, huge, dually monster truck that gets 6 MPG and hauls freight trains all day long, but that really doesn't prove anything.

Who makes the best car has no bearing on a full size truck review. Simply put Tundra not have a full size truck capable to haul and tow my requirements... are we buying a smaller truck anyway even if it cannot perform? Why the continual car comments or light version truck comparisons. I would have no warranty if I bought a Tundra as they would see it as abuse no doubt... I need strength,3/4 ton which the domestics have and I feel they are far superior.

18:27:

And of course you're still oblivious to the GAINS the domestics have made in quality.

Shall we take a look at JDPower again?

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings/dependability-ratings

Toyota actually fares very well with 4/5 Stars. But low and behold Chevy has 3/4, the same as ACURA, more than Nissan.

So surely GM can't be making the junk you claim they are.

Look at something else.

http://www.jdpower.com/press-releases/pressrelease.aspx?id=2007130

BUICK IS EVEN WITH LEXUS in reliability.

3 of the top 5 in reliability ARE DOMESTIC.

Must be another one of those flukes, right?

So no matter how often you repeat that we'll all be winding up driving Japanese soon, it's not going to happen because clearly there are better choices.

"It's as simple as this; if you drive a Ford or a GM, then you are driving something inferior in quality to a Toyota. Arguing that fact doesn't change anything. That's the way it is."

Too funny! It's "If I believe it, then it must be a fact!" You must be angry that Toyota has peaked, and people are realizing that Ford and GM are offering superior cars.

How about a new Silverado 3/4 ton diesel; just added a chip and easily get 20 mpg cruising on the highway. Is not a 1 ton dually and the deed restrictions in my new community allow under 1 ton without issue....... The ride is quite smooth, the engine, drivetrain, frame are not maxed out. I really have noted a direct advantage with my latest truck and its versatility, and its fuel costs are not at all unreasonable. Considering a 3/4 ton is quite significant when shopping 1/2 ton models if you plan on utilizing one fully.

14:31 You see, the difference between my comment and yours is that mine is true, and yours is not. In case you don't know this, just telling someone they're wrong doesn't mean that they are actually wrong, especially when they have facts to back it up.

Let me guess...'WHAT facts???' Go back through and read some of the intelligent pro-Toyota peoples' comments. The facts are there, and they are correct. Then you'll see a string of comments by Ford and Chevy owners who can't decipher fact from opinion telling them they are wrong. Pretty funny.

6:55, It's funny you say that, because I feel the same way about Toyota and Honda. If somebody GAVE me one, I wouldn't even want to drive it enough to trash it in the cornfield. Even though it would be fun to beat that pathetic piece of crap to death over the course of a couple of hours. That is, if it even had enough power to break itself, which I seriously doubt.

No doubt the engine would simply seize up after the aluminum block got hot, and the fun would be over before the axles, transmission, or steering gear had a chance to finish flying apart. But instead of that, I'd put it up for sale, and when some starry-eyed import fan like you paid me top dollar, I'd go buy something good, in other words, a new American vehicle.

17:54 I test drove a new Tundra first and bought a new GM Silverado the same night on my test drive as well. The Silverado cost more, but I liked it much more as well. Very nice to drive and is more comfortable.

12:26 Thank you for proving my point. Toyota is still rated better than anything else. And yes, your beloved Buick is a fluke. Lexus has held that spot for THIRTEEN straight years, and Buick got lucky enough to get there ONCE. I think I'll stick with the company with 13 in a row.

Really, I don't have a problem with Buick. They're not a Toyota, but they're still decent other than being dull as a bowling ball to drive. Any company that doesn't make a stick shift is geared toward older people, and that's who drives Buicks. Just don't make me laugh by trying to tell me that any pathetic scrap-heap Ford or Chevy is in the same ballpark as a Toyota. That would be ridiculous.