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13th Oct 2007, 07:56

In my household my spouse drives her SUV and I drive a car and a full size truck all under 2 years old. I also still prefer owning a car not driving a truck every single day. Of the many new imports we have owned they were fine mechanically until 2000 and were not the same mechanically thereafter... yet my wife stilled stayed with them up until a year ago. She had great imports, but got fed up with mechanical failures which she never had prior. I test drove a new Tundra and prefer Silverados handling and ride. No manufacturer buys vehicles for us so I call it as it is. This is the first time we have all domestics at the same time. I will test drive import and domestic trucks again and maybe it will be a Tundra next as models constantly improve. At this point and time I prefer GM meaning new models not like a prior reviewer commenting on 1984. My old imports were great, but my new ones did not hold up.

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14th Oct 2007, 07:25

Someone out there needs to explain to me why people think Toyota magically and mysteriously changed 'mechanically' after 2000. Did Y2k screw them up? Did they all go to work January 2nd, 2000, and the boss held a meeting; "Well, it's 2000, so overnight we've readjusted or replaced all of the assembly machines, and we're going to do everything differently now!" Ha ha.

I was the first person in my family to own a Toyota, almost 20 years ago, and after seeing that mine never breaks, every new car bought in my family has been a Toyota, and a few since 2000. Just like before 2000, nobody ever has a problem, they run to perfection, just like always. Same story with everyone else outside of my family that owns them. They just don't break. OK, one did. It's an '89 Camry that finally needs a fuel pump at 264,000 miles. Darn Toyota junk!

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14th Oct 2007, 08:18

I have a Borla stainless exhaust system on my 2007 Silverado. I could comment on 70-80's Toyota rustbucket pickups that I see in the Northeast. Sure they run even with bad rings blowing blue exhaust in your face, but fortunately I am not one of them. I would not want to park and I am sure my neighbors would not appreciate having old clunkers in front of their new homes. I thought I might read comparisons on 2007 pickups not 20 year old plus vehicles seems time to come to the present.

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14th Oct 2007, 09:12

There is no indication in any quality reports that imports being terrible after 2000. That being said, the domestic companies have been using the same parts for over 20 years and just now got the kinks out of them. No one seems to realize that when they drive an import that their car is truly brand new and not a 20 year design with a new car smell.

I see no reason to believe about these failures unless you talk about a few transmission problems that have been resolved in newer models such as the 2005 Ody or the new TL. These arguments about 2000 or newer imports does not stand any merit.

There is no way that Ford and GM and all of a sudden and flip a switch to make cars coming out in August more reliable than cars coming out of September... but somehow they fooled someone or one of those internet bloggers fooled you. If they can all of sudden change quality in one month, then they have been screwing us over for the last 30 years or so.

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14th Oct 2007, 09:48

I think mentioning 20+ year old pickups is relevant to the discussion. Toyota fans suggest Toyota's are the only pickups that last, in many cases making statements purporting that their trucks will still be running decades later, while all other trucks are in the junk yard. Those many of us that own and have had good experiences with domestic trucks know that just is not even remotely true. Hence, it is the Toyota camp, with their grandiose predictions of how long their trucks are supposedly going to last, even while we read continual stories of them failing right and left on this website, which necessitates discussing the older domestic trucks consistently going the distance, to refute their baseless arguments.

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14th Oct 2007, 17:22

09:48 You got one thing right, you can read endless STORIES about problems with Toyota's here. And you exaggerate; no where did I read a comment saying my Toyota will last 'decades' longer than a domestic. Will it last several years longer? You bet. They already do, and will continue to.

You talk about baseless comments? How about your claim that there are all of these older domestic trucks all over the place? Most of the ones I see are stacked up in a junkyard, which is where they belonged in the first place. The few '80's domestic trucks that I know of personally that are still on the road have hardly any original parts left in them. You can keep anything on the road forever if you just keep replacing everything. It's just that with a Toyota, you don't have to, at least not for a long, long time.

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14th Oct 2007, 19:10

It stands to reason then if new Tundra is so exceptional and can go the distance long term, then a 100,000 mile standard warranty is a no brainer. I will never be caught with a 36,000 mile warranty again on another import. In 4 years I easily reach 100,000 miles on a truck and even more with my car. I wonder if you feel that a 500,000 mile vehicle/20 years old that has questionable reliability with its components is the way to go? I believe they go to auctions and secondary lots as soon as possible for cheap transportion; but its not cheap when 30 days are up (and import parts are higher down the road). I prefer not to drive a rusty import with non-working a/c and paying for timing belts, suspension and electronic components and drivetrain woes with old 20 year old buckets. I'll take a new domestic or import with standard, not aftermarket warranties with deductibles, and sell before they are up.

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15th Oct 2007, 03:10

19:10 That's surely the only way I'd be stuck with a domestic; if I got rid of it well before the warranty ran out.

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15th Oct 2007, 11:45

Again... more people grasping at straws with attempts to "debunk" everyone with these audacious claims that all imports are naturally inferior to Grandpa's Chevrolet or their gigantic dually, gas-sucking excuse of a truck.

First of all, I get up at 5:30 every morning and drive 50 miles to work. If you're not seeing tons of 20+ year old Toyota trucks, then perhaps you should ride along with me and see all those old toyotas loaded up with ladders, pressure washers, scaffolding, and tools. That's exactly what I see which is loads of mainly hispanic contractors using their old Toyotas for yes - REAL work.

Secondly, as many have pointed out- Toyota does offer a 100,000 mile warranty. Yes, it does cost extra. The question is do you actually need it? I've never had any problems with any Toyota I've owned. Simply put, their products are engineered so well that the product itself IS your warranty because the things rarely have problems. Ever want to see what people's experiences have been the much mentioned GM warranty? Just read some of the posts on this site. The warranty is barely worth the paper it is written on.

Lastly, are Toyota parts more expensive than domestic parts? Nope - sorry, wrong again. For example, back when my dad had a 94' Ford F-250, one of the plastic chrome hub covers fell off the wheel. A new one cost him $55. Yes- 55 bucks for a stupid plastic cover. I've bought parts for both Ford and Toyota trucks and in my experience, The Ford parts are as much or even more in some instances. So you can throw that argument out the door. That is unless we're talking about some ancient 40 year old rust belt leftover, in which case we might as well be discussing something else entirely.

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15th Oct 2007, 12:43

I would rather own a new vehicle longer than 2 years as with an import...

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15th Oct 2007, 14:40

19:10.

I bought a Honda Accord and they through in a 7 year/100.000 mile warranty in for nearly nothing. This warranty was through Honda and we never had to use it. However when the car went in for certification they replaced all the fluids and gave us a fresh battery. This was at 48,000 miles and now we have 168,000 miles on one of those "unreliable 2000 and newer" Japanese cars. We drive 35,000 miles a year and I would not do that in a domestic vehicle unless it had a V8 drivetrain. We have relatives with GM 3800's but the body and chassis are falling apart like crazy.

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15th Oct 2007, 16:10

The "import" companies had to develop reliable cars to get a strong hold in the American auto industry. Now they turn out vehicles as reliable as the domestics because they don't have to be super reliable anymore. People will buy them no matter what with absolutely no question. Yet the "toyota camp" as someone earlier put it, fervently defend their japanese trucks.

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15th Oct 2007, 16:26

19:10 Read your own comment! You prove yourSELF wrong. Just as you say, you'll easily go 100,000 miles in four years or so. ANY new vehicle will do that. The 100,000 mile warranty is a sales ploy; '100,000' sounds like a lot, but it's only 4 or 5 years for most of us; it's the only way anyone will consider buying a GM car, known to be of low quality. Toyota can sell cars on the merits of reliability, GM can't. So, they need to offer this warranty. The problem is, even a piece of junk GM will most likely last to 100,000, which is not a lot of miles anymore. AFTER that, you're stuck with the piece of crap, which will begin to self destruct before too long. Or, you can trade the GM in, which'll be worth nothing, and buy another junk GM. Or, you can just buy the Toyota in the first place, and have a reliable car for many years.

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15th Oct 2007, 19:05

I agree completely with 11:45. Go out & buy Consumer Reports, and that will tell you the REAL story regarding Toyotas vs domestic. The Tundra is also 100% American, unlike the garbage Ford, Dodge, & GM are churning out. So not only do you get a better truck with more reasonably priced parts, but you don't have to feel guilty about buying something imported, like a Ford, Chevy, or Dodge. Nice try domestic fans, but I don't buy it either.

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15th Oct 2007, 19:06

11:45 is 100% right!

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