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15th Apr 2008, 17:00

Well, comment 18:44 is not EXACTLY correct. If a domestic has ANY problem, it is called "domestic crap", "worthless garbage", etc. even if it is just a broken knob on the radio.

If an import vehicle has a major, life-threatening problem, such as the Tundra's defective brakes, steering, front suspension, stalling engines or bad air bags, the import owners just go "Oh, it's such a RARE occurrence it hardly warrants noting".

One of our friends has a Tundra that has been in the shop repeatedly for brake and front end problems. He also bought a 2007 Camry and has mentioned all sorts of problems with it. But if you ask him why he bought yet ANOTHER defective import, his response is "They are better." Even when I point out that our 6-year-old GM that has given him rides to the dealer to pick up his Tundra, has never had ONE problem in all those miles, he still will argue that imports are "better". I think a new definition of "better" needs to be used for import owners. If cars that break down more frequently are "better", that does NOT match my dictionary's definition of the word.

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15th Apr 2008, 22:21

We've never once been stranded in an American vehicle, including some that had over 200,000 miles on them. In our entire married life my wife and I have both been stranded on the road twice. In both cases it was in a friend's Toyota that was still under warranty (two different friends and two different Toyotas).

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16th Apr 2008, 11:30

"...my Tacoma only has 90,000 on it, and runs as well as day 1."

Great, and my 2002 Ford Explorer has only 94,000 miles on it, and runs flawlessly, with no repair ever. You are not proving your point, only expressing your belief that "Toyota is better."

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16th Apr 2008, 15:23

22:21 I find it funny that people write in saying they've never been let down in a domestic but have more than once in Toyota's. If this happens, then it's an extremely rare situation that's the exception to the rule. It's just not the truth, plain and simple.

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16th Apr 2008, 17:43

"GM lost more money last year than ever before,"

And yet GM sales were up. You fail to relate that GM's loss was due to worker buyouts, not poor sales.

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16th Apr 2008, 18:06

The V6 Toyota owner may not realize that many full size truck owners prefer the V8 engine, stronger drivetrain, bed and towing capability as well as more interior room and far superior warranty.

In addition, the MPG is quite impressive on the open road with the newest V8 models. Maybe you never tow... maybe off road or cruise the interstates with little strain on the drivetrain. I know that the Toyota would not be up to the tasks I expect and would not be durable on various tow applications I do on an ongoing basis.

Taking out cost, as I do not buy that way, never going the cheapest... I buy function and capability, and the full size domestics have superior power, load and towing characteristics. If Toyota impresses me with more than I can currently attain, and have at least a 100,000 mile warranty as standard, I will check them out yet again next year.

The manufacturers are not staying in business by the way if everyone takes the logic I will; keep my vehicle 10-15 years and tack on 300,000 miles. I am a consumer that likes the newest technology, features, safety benefits and will buy ever 2-3 years because of design advances.

Import or domestic, I buy what has the best at the moment. Currently it is domestics. I run 50,000 miles tops and expect no issues up to that mileage. I have had issues with imports in as little as 30,000 miles. That is unacceptable.

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17th Apr 2008, 06:05

Hello All:

I saw a few people mention GM's unfortunate losses last year. Yes, they were large. But, that as due to employee buy outs and union contract settlements - things Toyota never had/has to contend with.

GM's sales grew last year and were actually the second largest the company ever had.

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17th Apr 2008, 14:14

One person wrote in saying that GM was good because he had 3 new GM trucks since 2004 with no problems. That is not a show of quality. A quality made product is not seen by driving a vehicle a year and buying a new one.

I had a 99 S10 4x4 and what a pile of junk. Everyone that has ever had a Blazer, Jimmy, S10 knows what it like to have to get your 4x4 fixed. Mine broke twice with less than 90,000 miles. Along with failed idler arms, water pump, alternator, etc.

Oh, now let's talk about the GM Malibu with failed gaskets, theft system, ignition switch, blower motor, AC switch problems. Yeah about the Dexcool law suite that finally passed so people could be reimbursed for dexcool failures.

People, GM is not loyal to you, they are loyal to stock holders. Stop thinking that if you buy a foreign car you are not supporting American worker. So you think that GM cares what you think, NO! If GM was so concerned about the American worker and being patriotic, why do they move to abroad. They save money and produce trash.

If you think that I would want to buy a new 2008 Malibu, you have got to be joking. Nor would I replace my S10 with a Canyon.

Now I have a 2003 Nissan Frontier and could not be happier with the replacement of my S10. Plan on a foreign vehicle to replace the Malibu.

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17th Apr 2008, 23:52

Auto sales variations have far more to do with economic factors than with "quality" issues. No one who has driven any new domestic can question the quality.

The biggest factor hurting sales of domestics at the moment is high gas prices. The sales of Ford's highly economical Focus shot up 23% in the first quarter of this year, and Ford plans to increase Focus production by 30% to cover the demand. Also Europe has experienced a 9.5% decline in new car sales in the month of March from a year ago. Heavy, less fuel efficient vehicles are losing their appeal to a public looking at skyrocketing gas prices. Since the majority of domestics are rather fuel hungry, people are left with the option of buying whatever gets the best mileage. At the moment that is basic transportation appliances such as the Ford Focus and almost all Toyota, Nissan and Honda models.

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18th Apr 2008, 15:02

When people advocate destroying American businesses, as import supporters do, they are hurting their neighbors, their children's futures and our entire standard of living.

As we watch the value of the dollar plummet and gas prices soaring, and hear news that the U.S. no longer has the highest standard of living in the world (we reached that dubious distinction in 2007), we can thank the buyers of Hondas, Toyotas and Nissans. If we want to destroy American businesses, we hurt no one but ourselves.

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18th Apr 2008, 17:33

14:14 I bought Hondas/Acuras every 2-3 years for many years and stopped buying them. Driving 20-30,000 miles minimum a year is a good indication of quality, not duration of ownership. If your new Honda/Toyota starts coming in 25,000 miles plus for major repairs, you take notice during its first year of ownership. 36,000 miles comes up quick with heavy driving.

I would have never looked at a total domestic ownership household, but it has happened. Usually there was a new import and domestic, my wife mainly being the import driver. At any rate she loves her new GM SUV, and I love not picking her up at the import lounge after work with yet another issue anymore. It got old really quick.

If you drive a lot a miles per year, even if you only own it 2-3 years, it has significance... import or domestic.

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19th Apr 2008, 14:29

14:14 Thank you. I get tired of hearing people's favorable 'opinions' about domestic quality. Just like you said, anyone who's ever owned a Jimmy, S-10, or, God forbid, a Blazer knows about domestic and 'GM' quality. Each of the three of those vehicles, as well as most everything else they make or made, is pure junk. I know enough people too that have owned that scrap.

A few friends for instance that had S-10's, with the 4-point-whatever liter V-6, guaranteed to blow up in under 90,000 miles. Every one I ever saw had serious, usually terminal problems somewhere around that mileage. Try using it off-road like a Toyota truck. It'll last about a week at best before something falls apart.

Anyone who claims the Jimmy was a good vehicle needs to join a circus somewhere and put on a big red nose and floppy shoes. The Blazer was and is even worse. At 30,000 miles, my sister's sounded and ran like a Toyota might after 300,000. Worse probably. I could go on and on about that one. The paint literally WASHED OFF of the bumpers the FIRST time she washed it. Engine sounded like someone threw a pocket of sheet metal screws into the intake. Horrible. That's not opinion. It was horrid. Thank goodness she finally had the sense to switch to imports. She hasn't had an issue yet, and feels safer driving her kids around in something well built instead of that death trap Blazer that went through 3 sets of rotors in 30,000 miles. And yes, she lost her butt on the trade in. Apparently a Blazer is worth next to nothing after 30,000 miles, which I already knew just by listening to it run and driving it.

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19th Apr 2008, 17:40

23:52.

I am not sure what you are talking about with American manufacturers not making fuel efficient vehicles.

The 2007 Chevy Malibu with the V6 gets 30MPG, while the Toyota Camry with the V6 only gets 28MPG.

The Malibu is a heavier car and has a more powerful engine than the Camry, yet still achieves better mileage. Anybody can make a small car with a small engine that gets good gas mileage. My '03 Cavalier gets 36.5MPG even though it is only rated for 34MPG. But, achieving good fuel economy on a car with the power and room to actually haul a family around is a lot more impressive. My family cannot fit in a Focus or my Cavalier, nor would I ever compromise their safety trying to do so.

The Malibu is an example of very good engineering to achieve fuel economy on GM's part, but of course nobody will ever give them credit for it.

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20th Apr 2008, 06:35

I would like to see more long term mileage durability reviews on full size trucks with V8's instead of 4 cylinder mini pickups. And reviews with loads and towing not just empty. This is about Tundras and full size domestics. If you are going to buy a truck, especially full size, why skimp whatsoever, get a V8.

On domestic ownership I have historically owned full size sedans and pickups with V8's. Many GM, but I have also had 2 Crown Vics work vehicles with small block V8's that ran forever and were extremely reliable. They also ride better on long trips. Hard working overreving small engines, especially towing and carrying heavy loads, seems senseless to buy. If all you do is cruise the interstate empty or go on a back road once in a while, maybe it works for you. I have a family (4), usually carry a heavy load of some sort in the bed to our weekend home, and also tow a boat that no little wimpy truck is ever going to hold up. We could take 2 vehicles, but it seems more practical to have one to go from point A to B in one trip.

I see small trucks straining at the marina on the steep ramp and shake my head wondering why. If you want small, buy an economy vehicle, go to the home centers etc and tie the trunk down. I would rather own a decent full size truck with a V8 that lopes effortlessly on trips and will last. I realize gas is high, but why compromise the purpose of having a truck? Buy a car instead.

You wonder why they don't hold up? Is it that every component of your drivetrain is working overtime; even the A/C brings it down with these small overworked engines. If you drive around empty, maybe my comments are baseless..... I use my truck as it was designed. My 50,000 miles of usage per vehicle would most likely be 2-3 times harder. Perhaps more of the average empty or near empty ones are just commuting around. My new full size GM V8's cruise and run effortlessly. In 2 years I average 50,000 miles and buy new......

I may go with the new green GM V8 hybrids next, which get the same fuel mileage as a Camry. And you are getting a V8. The hybrid SUV is out now, and I am looking forward to the new GM hybrid pickup, hopefully out next year.

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20th Apr 2008, 21:16

My "opinion" of domestics is based on family ownership of many over a 40-year period. Many were driven well over 200,000 miles. One was driven over 300,000. Not a one of them ever had a transmission or engine replacement or rebuild. Not one ever had the heads, pan or intake manifold off the engine.

During that period we also owned Toyota, Honda, Mazda and VW. The Toyota made 100,000 before beginning to have serious problems. It was the best of the imports. The Honda began having very serious problems at 50,000-60,000 miles. The Mazda and Volkswagen were some of the worst examples of poor build quality I ever saw.

All-in-all, we've owned far more domestics than imports, and the domestics have always proven more reliable in the long run. ALWAYS.

We currently own an 8 year old and a 6 year old GM, neither of which has ever required even 1 repair.

No amount of unsubstantiated comments from import owners can ever take the place of real world experience. I'll never spend my hard-earned money on another POS import that is in the shop every other week.

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