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This F-150 guy sounds really angry. May you should invite Mr. Roush over for a cup of tea, and talk about how you two will carry out a plan to get rid of Toyota once and for all... hehe.
You Ford, Chrysler, GM guys make me laugh.. don't hate the "Player" (Toyota), hate the game. It took years for the Japanese to pioneer themselves to where they are at today. The Tundra and Tacoma isn't the REAL reason why FORD sucks. The Tundra is clearly on a roll to take some sales away from the Drowning big 3. I mean, look through the history books..
The Taurus, which was once considered a savior for Ford, was discontinued and then brought back.
The Impala from Chevy is hardly even noticed anywhere on the streets.
Don't come on here and try to use your comments to fight off the Japanese, but fight back by simply producing as good or better products.
Toyota put high incentives on their trucks because they know that out there, are guys who "wonder" about just how a good the Japanese truck is. The incentives lure buyers and therefore they are experiencing tremendous success. Sure, they may be losing money.. but, it's getting their product out there on the market.
I was at Sears Point in California when they were testing out all the trucks and I tell you.. I don't know what the hell Ford was thinking when they came out saying that the F-150 can tow up to 11,000 lbs (total ********). While all 5 (the famous F-150,Titan, Sierra, Tundra, Silverado) trucks were tested, hauling 8500 lbs each.. both GM (6.0 liter) and Toyota (5.7 liter) trucks got up to 60 mph and back down to 0 mph before the F-150 (5.4 liter) got up to 60 mph... now THAT was funny.. I still laugh every time I think of that day... I'm still laughing...!!
Actually my Ford has no problems with ball joints, but some of you have been claiming that they do, so a real engine is what's probably doing it.
You have a car engine in your truck, and probably a car transmission, and if it really weighed anything like a real truck should, it would probably fall apart.
An F-150 would last double what it normally does, if it were light and fluffy, but like your Toyota, it would be useless, because anyone knows a light truck is worthless for doing work.
You don't believe I haul a lot of weight in my Ford simply because you've never hauled a lot in your Toyota, and you don't think a truck is actually able to haul a lot. That's what you get for driving a Toy.
If you ever actually did anything strenuous besides flop around in mud, you'd have broken the thing by now already. It's useless, it's a toy. That's why all you can do is play in mud with the thing.
Aluminum is a light cheap flimsy metal that melts much faster than cast iron. Cast iron is very very heavy and very very hard, and it tolerates hundreds and hundreds of degrees of temperature above anything aluminum. Cast iron is not out-dated, it's tried and true. Any real machine has a cast iron engine. Like a semi, tractor, bulldozer, tank, back-hoe, domestic truck, etc. If Toyota ever intended on their trucks being used for anything but playing in mud, they'd have to put cast iron in them.
Of course they know nothing about work trucks. So they make toys and you play with their toys. My service keeps track of the mileage every time I GET AN OIL CHANGE.
The F-150 is heavier than any of the others and it has a much bigger frame. They just need to offer a larger V8 as the top option.
14:16 I had company cars for 15 years both import and domestic until recently. I have to purchase my own now and drive new domestics based on experience of heavy driving.
The number one vehicle sold in America is Ford F Series...7 times more were sold than Tundra last year. Start adding in the great new Silverado and other domestics instead of ranting about Camrys.
That's pretty darn funny about Ford's poor performance in the towing contest. Why am I not surprised? Yet another Ford fairy tale disproven. Even the piece of crap GM beat it badly, huh? You couldn't sell me a new Ford truck for $5. They're pitiful.
To the poster who claimed that the F-150 sells 7x's the amount of Tundra's - the vast majority of those F-150's are for commercial use and not personal use. Why - because they are cheap. End of story. Not too many companies can afford a fleet of Toyota's. The personal use F-150's are also lease vehicles which were purchased because of cheap lease rates. Wonder why there are so many of them at the auction - try and find a Tundra there.
I think the true experts are the ones who really use trucks for serious work.
Why haven't construction workers switched to Toyota trucks if they're so durable?
Why do cab drivers drive Ford Crown Vic's and not Toyota Avalon's?
-Because of real world experience; not because they follow hype.
I see otherwise Ford F250's and up being used by professionals and by those that need a decent towing vehicle for recreational trailers, powerboats, etc. for weekends. For over 20 years, being the number 1 vehicle in America is a very impressive track record. It would be impressive to see '20 years Number 1' by Toyota in all fairness, but it hasn't happened.
It's hard to find a new Tundra at any building supply, let alone at an auction...
This thread is almost laughable with all the Toyota faithful asserting the new Tundra is so good. Have you checked the news lately? The new Toyota 5.7 V8 is snapping camshafts. You cannot get any more serious of a problem than that.
OK Toyota apologists, it's your turn to chime in...
I am looking forward to finding out why a snapped camshaft is nothing to worry about, and how I am somehow missing the point that this is actually a sign of a superior truck.
While you (Toyota apologists) are at it, for those of you bashing the domestic trucks claiming they have bad suspension components, I'd also be interested to hear how Toyota having to recall Tundra's for faulty ball joints is indicative of them being any better. For your reference, here is the link to the Toyota suspension recall.
http://auto-recalls.justia.com/content/07V013000-TOYOTA-TUNDRA-2006.html
Since when are F150's cheap?
So what you are trying to say is that Ford F150's are the best selling vehicle, beating anything Toyota has because they are so cheap?
You do not see Tundra's on construction sites because those people need real trucks to do real work, not a powder room on wheels for picking up trinkets at the market.
08:28 That's exactly right. People buy cheap junk like an F-150 because they don't have the foresight to see that they'll be buying 2 F-150's to equal the life of one Toyota truck.
Serious contractors buy the F250's...again the number 1 vehicle sold in the U.S.A. for over 20 years. Not many Tundras I see on any job sites. Where are they?