2007 Toyota Tundra SR5 from North America - Off Topic Comments

We who own Toyota trucks do not need to be convinced of anything. We already know that the trucks we drive are highly reliable, competent, and will last us for many, many years of trouble-free use. If you who keep on coming in here and trying to make a case as to why dinosaur clunker Fords and Chevys are so much better than Toyotas, then I think that in reality, you all are just trying to convince yourselves that you don't in fact own dilapidated crap spewed out of rust belt states.

I've lived in both "good-ole-boy-land" with people who think that they uphold the "American value system" and therefor think that it's a sin to buy anything with a foreign nameplate even if that means buying an inferior product, as well as the total opposite in highly urban progressive areas where people think Fords and Chevys are kind of like jokes. Neither is correct for assuming so, and luckily for you and I, we can have the choice to freely choose what we want to buy.

That said, I stand behind what I know to be true, which is that my truck and practically everyone else I know who owns a Toyota truck has had near-flawless performance and reliability and simply expect them to run day in, day out without a hicup. Enough said.

23:48 OK, we'll use a football analogy if you like. I like to think of Ford as the fat kid on the team that thinks that just adding more weight everywhere will make him tougher and perform better. Simply not true. Once again, you completely miss the point. So I'll try again. Toyota DESIGN! DESIGN!...The way the frame is shaped and bolted together, is superior to any other truck it's size. I've seen your theories about weight=strength disproven dozens of times off road, where anything else will flex and fall apart before a Toyota will. You obviously don't have enough knowledge about this subject to discuss it. One more time; more material does NOT mean more strength. If it's shaped correctly, maybe so; but the people at Ford and GM have not yet done this. A Toyota will stay tight long after an S-10 has twisted apart. Oh, and an S-10 with 496,000 miles on it? Yeah, sure.

"The way the frame is shaped and bolted together, is superior to any other truck it's size."

Prove it.

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(Best I could do for example on this website)

Also, I am commenter 23:48, not 23:32.

Why skimp... its not a small compact having to appeal to the masses mpg woes. These trucks fully equipped are not cheap. I'll take rugged, strength, payloads and great tow capabilities first and then the superior warranty to back it up. That means 3/4 ton pickups if I am buying a truck and insuring it and what is behind it......I am not taking the risk.

11:05 Well, I'd like to thank the many thousands of people on Car Survey for steering me away from any Ford, GM, or Dodge product. I realized that they are all junk, and made the smart decision and bought a Toyota, which is a much better product than those 3 will ever hope to make. Glad I read here first and didn't waste my money on garbage.

I think some of you who keep throwing the " cast iron and heavy weight is better" argument need to carefully read the comments from 05:43. That person mentioned he worked at a lab in Oak Ridge, TN. I actually grew up not too far from there. That area is heavily involved with nuclear, robotic, and defense research. Now just sit and think about that for a minute. I think this person knows a tad more than the average joe about metallurgical properties. Why even continue the argument?

As I've said before... I haven't seen any cast iron planes flying around... have you?

Obviously you read all of the reviews on this site very selectively. There is a negative review of Toyota for every one of Chevrolet, Ford etc. Buy what you want. But quit making the claims that Toyota is best bar none. It is just not true.

I wish I knew of Car Survey when I purchased my last new import. I would have saved many thousands avoiding an Acura purchase... there are so many bad reviews which the dealership never disclosed. I have bought new GM's and have had the best 2 vehicles yet... and a better warranty. I also do not have to buy 93 octane fuel anymore.

11:03, Uh, NO. There are WAY more bad Ford and Chevy reviews on this site, and for sure in real life. Oh, and actually, it IS true. Toyota's ARE way better.

Oh no and Oh my, but domestics are better. Maybe when Toyota is around for 50 or more years we will see the true effect of time. Lets see the same new vehicle warranty and perhaps I might forgive my last import mistakes.

23:11 Well, just because it takes GM and Ford 75 years for the idea to occur to them that quality matters, doesn't mean the case is the same for Toyota. They've known this since day 1, which is why people began to abandon domestic cars years ago, and have been buying Toyota's instead.

Look at the numbers. Think of it like grading homework. Ford has moved up to about a C- from a solid F. GM still gets an F. Complete lack of effort. Toyota gets an A. Honda gets an A. Dodge gets an incomplete for not being able to decide what country they should be owned by and nearly going out of business 3 times in the last 30 years.

Building a car without any conscience towards quality, reliability, or engineering does not make it a good car. This is what makes Honda and Toyota a superior car or truck. They are built by people who love engines and will do anything to make them world class quality whether it is a Tercel or a Lexus. People come on here and say that their Chevette or their Corsica is superior to anything ever built by the Japanese and then you wonder why people cannot take you seriously?

19:02 I don't think that anyone here wants to replace trucks. What I want is for people that don't need them to stop buying them. The kind of hauling you're talking about is common to about 1 in 5000 people, just guessing. Why is it that I see as many trucks at the grocery store as I do cars? Are they buying ALL the milk? I don't think so. These people are driving an automobile with a v-8 that gets 13 miles to the gallon to the grocery store. That's just dumb. Is this stupidity going to continue when gas gets to 4 and 5 dollars a gallon? And it will, and soon. I've already heard estimates of $4 a gallon by next summer. My small truck gets 22 mpg, and I spend about $300 a month on gas. I've realized that I'll actually save money by buying a 10-$14,000 Hyundai, Toyota, or Honda car and getting rid of the truck. If my truck only got 13 or 14 mpg, it would have been gone a long time ago. It's simply common sense, unless you're one of the people in the tiny majority that actually needs a truck.

Wow some of you people are stuck in the early nineties, Toyota quality and that of the domestics is the same now, the only thing that hasn't changed is that European cars are still behind everybody. A JD Powers poll just found out that the top 5 car makers in reliability are as follows: Lexus, Buick, Lincoln, Mercury and Honda.

There are more vehicles than comparing Corsicas and Chevettes... which have no relevance yet again on a full size truck review. I feel that my new Siverado performs better, rides and handles better than the new Tundra, pulls better with a better load carrying capacity, carries an add'l individual, has a much better warranty. The first thing I noticed was the ride and handling quality which in itself prompted me to not buy a Tundra. The Titan if you are a staunch import fan in my opinion is a better truck than Tundra. That would be my only import truck consideration. If you have been in new full size trucks how about sharing your first hand driving impressions/comparisons as I have no intentions on buying any of the cars you are comparing to full size trucks that have no direct relevance to this discussion for potential purchasers.