2007 Toyota Tundra SR5 from North America - Off Topic Comments

Unless you need a giant truck (anything above 3/4 ton) or a huge van, there is NO sound reasoning behind buying a Ford or GM when you could have a Honda or a Toyota. None. You can buy a GM and state opinions, like 'it looks better', or it 'rides better', neither of which I agree with, but you can't say it's a more reliable, higher quality car or truck, because it isn't. You can say it, but you'll be wrong.

06:37 Well, at least with a Toyota, you can sell it and come out at least even, unlike a domestic, where even the dealership that ripped you off in the first place knows that their product isn't worth much; so they give you very little.

19:27 what documentation can you provide that this vehicle currently being reviewed (Tundra) can go 250-300,000 miles with no issues?

I have owned 2 new GM full size trucks since 2004 and see otherwise. I have upgraded rather than spent on needless dealer visits and large outlays on repairs. I have no issues on upgrades as there is something to show for it, as well as adding to driving enjoyment.

I have added K & N intakes, stainless full flow exhaust systems, upgraded tires and the sound systems. The only repairs have been filters, fluids and brakes as I do tow frequently.

I meticulously maintain vehicles, and I find the new domestics to being more durable compared to other late models. Even world class vehicles such as Mercedes have numerous negative reviews on late models on here.

The best thing about vehicles, is that you ultimately buy what you like, not what others think. I test drive new vehicles, and maybe my next vehicles will not be GM, but I really like what I own. Show me some Tundras with 200,000 miles plus as are claimed, not just an assumption. I would like to see 2005 present reviews on full size trucks, not old stuff reiterated over and over.

This is a very specialized segment. Unless you carry larger loads, tow equipment, boats etc. it seems unlikely you realize this market to understand their value and appeal.

Well I put over 100,000 miles in less than 3 years. I would only trust a Honda to do that. I have had no problems doing so. Stop picking on that little company. It feels like we are boycotting Ace Hardware and advocating for the Home Depot. Maybe you guys are into that kind of thing, but you gotta realize that Honda is a smaller company compared to the giant General Motors and a little flea next to Ford. But isn't it funny how most Honda cars outsell them?

What Honda are you recommending to us on a 2007 Tundra review? A Ridgeline? Are you serious? Lets park the Honda next to the Tundra, Ford F Series, Titan, Silverado, Ram and expect it to be a full size truck. Where is its bed? It's a car with a compromised bed. Even if you get half of the resale value in 3 years with Honda its not in the same category. I'd love to see this Honda pull my boat up a ramp. Again this is a full size truck review... being a safe vehicle to tow and carry loads, function and capability are the primary reasons I chose this size vehicle. One does not buy these expecting economy. Tundras, Titans as well as domestics use fuel which is fine as long as they work and do not compromise what they are designed to do. I also like having reserve capacity as far as load and towing capabilities which necessitated a domestic model. I have to wonder how many of the comments are from individuals that actually own a new full size truck as they seem to not understand. This is not a Corolla or Civic review to apply car mentality. You need a strong vehicle that can safely stop with loads and towing especially.

14:16;

"Unless you need a giant truck (anything above 3/4 ton) or a huge van, there is NO sound reasoning behind buying a Ford or GM when you could have a Honda or a Toyota. None. You can buy a GM and state opinions, like 'it looks better', or it 'rides better', neither of which I agree with, but you can't say it's a more reliable, higher quality car or truck, because it isn't. You can say it, but you'll be wrong."

In your opinion.

Maybe you are looking for a Honda truck for me to give you, which I will not since Honda is all about building vehicles with better economy and do not want to build trucks. They barely built the Ridgeline.

Now what you don't realize is every joe is on here not only talking about trucks, but saying their Cavalier is superior to a Civic or their Venture van is better than an Odyssey. I am here defending against those commentors. Plain and simple!

20:12 Nope, in fact.

I own a 1/2 ton GM... sound reasoning 100,000 mile warranty, more amenities, better people carrying capacity, better cost to own over 5 years with Edmunds, better fuel economy... not a Tundra and certainly no Hondas are even considered or made. Odessey good choice!

21:43, you are defending the Odyssey which has had transmission failures. I would have went with a better model than that.

23rd Nov 2007, 08:16.

21:43, you are defending the Odyssey which has had transmission failures. I would have went with a better model than that.

HMMMM...but the Caravan, Freestar, and everything in between has transmission problems. So I guess I should go buy a Toyota van which does not have these problems. UH OH!!! This means Toyota has the best van if you do not count the 05-present vans from Honda. Also I have heard of many 99-04 Honda vans having no trouble if they change the transmission fluid in 45k interval miles, instead of the 90k Honda scedule.

15:43 not sure about on other sites, but on this site there are only seven Freestar reviews. And if I am not mistaken only one review had transmission failure. Vehicles will have problems, but the Odyssey owners are aggravated badly about the Odyssey. And I would not buy a Toyota van, because there are Chevrolet and other vans to looks at.

So what full size Honda truck should we buy?

The largest quantity of vehicles sold in America are full size trucks. Now we are debating small minivans and pint size pickups with car frames. There is absolutely no way I can operate out of one of these minature vehicles. I cannot fathom the appeal of small, cramped, uncomfortable little vehicles that you pay on for 4-5 years and ride in only to justify fuel and what you saved to buy one. In the interim you are uncomfortable and crammed inside, and lose total functionality.

But a low payment and mpg may be the focus with many, but not if you look at what trucks can accomplish for you. Why not examine why the most popular vehicles in America are not these small vehicles, and why people desire and actually own full size useful trucks? My full size truck pays for itself many times over every month; in function, and not just in resale. I have completely remodeled my home, worked on others, carried equipment, gone to estate sales, towed a boat, and on and on. I suspect many others wish, or at some point see that there is much more than just fuel costs, and how much they skimped to save a few bucks at the end of ownership.

My last small pickup I once owned was extremely limited, and pulling 3rd seats in and out of minivans to carry drywall, plywood, furniture and the like is not my idea of being able to immediately take advantage of oppy's and sales on weekends; and is not especially safe loaded up and limiting driving visibility.

The endless miniature car debate on a full size truck review is not applicable. We all know we get 12 mpg in the city in this size vehicle. It's not a surprise, but if I see a bargain in the paper new or used, I can save money being the first one there with a decent truck that can bring it home. I can drive to stores in the little economy car, buy new furniture and then have to pay to have it all delivered or........... be at an estate sale on a regular basis, buy antiques and then bring some great values home in my full size truck. If not that I cannot pass on anything else that can be carried or towed at any given time, without wondering if my truck can handle it. It does not have to be a 1 ton or dually, but little pickups, minivans are not very functional. And then you make 2 or more trips or not at all, especially with a Ridgeline or other small truck that has the tiny little 6' bed.

A larger truck can make money even if just plowing and can save a ton of money taking advantage of closeouts, returns, sales etc. and bringing them home the same day. I would buy a large van if I could not own a full size truck, but certainly nothing smaller. Just another viewpoint to share.

There are probably only 7 Freestar reviews because nobody buys them and therefore there aren't many Freestar owners around to even write reviews. I'm guessing most people remember what an awful disaster the Windstar was. Absolutely nothing but headaches, and Freestar is nothing but a Windstar renamed. Kind of like recently when nobody bought the new Ford 500, so they renamed it Taurus; goodness only knows why, because that was another car plagued with problems.

And Chevrolet vans? You couldn't sell me one for $100 brand new. Chevy cars and trucks are the cheapest junk on the market; any Toyota product puts them to shame.