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A Ford F250 or a Silverado 3/4 ton would have been the best choice.
To: 27th Nov 2007, 16:49.
They all claim that this and that Truck can tow UP TO X much.
But You need to buy the vehicle configured with the gearing, engine, suspension etc.. to handle the max towing capacity.
You wouldn't want to pull 10000lbs with the V6 in the Tundra either.
14;36 No, a GM is never a better choice than a Toyota. And the Ford is crap, so why buy the next size up piece of crap?
If the small Ford and Tundra are rated the same tow rating, wouldn't logic dictate a 3/4 ton with much higher tow rating be the obvious choice? Maybe your friend could buy a small pop up trailer and own an import?
11:57 The Ford I'm talking about is a brand new F-150 with a V-8; not the 351 or whatever size it is now, but the smaller V-8. The rating for THAT particular truck, equipped in that way, is 10000 pounds, according to the Ford dealership, so it should be able to tow 70% of its capacity, which is 7000 pounds.
Now my friend is another person who Ford has ripped off; he won't own another one, and I'm certain he will go with the Toyota next time, which is what he should have done in the first place. My little '98 Tacoma with a V-6, and literally half the horsepower of his brand new F-150 is rated to tow 5000 pounds, and I hauled more than that once when I moved; a 600 mile trip that took me through the mountains of Virginia and W. Virginia. No trouble at all. Meanwhile, his big full size, brand NEW Ford almost died towing 7000. Pathetic.
15:37 It would be quite interesting to borrow a brand new Tundra, and just tow the exact same camper trailer tow capacity application next summer on a very steep grade in hot 100 degree plus sun, especially in bumper to bumper traffic, stop go traffic, and see if it's that much better. Then please share a review with first hand comments. As you have not done so it's conjecture to say that Tundra with the same tow ratings is going to be any better, especially under the conditions I just mentioned.
It also defies logic why you would feel that a smaller import truck is the only solution when 3/4 ton, 1 ton and even larger domestics are readily available. Just because a V8 is present in a truck by the way does not indicate that it is the best to tow. It may not even have towing options other than a hitch on it for better cooling,better suspension etc. You can have a basic 6 cyl or a large V8 2wd street pickup as 1/2 ton and will always be 1/2 ton... but will it tow as well as a smaller engine present in a domestic 3/4 ton 4WD?
I suspect you will say imports will tow this specific load better, as after all they are an import. I have towed trailers frequently under these hot conditions and know from experience.
First of all, Dodge is not known exactly for building fine vehicles unless you see the Viper. I would not be surprised if the Tundra could out tow that vehicle.
Ford's F-150 was built in 2004 and was designed to compete with the then Silverado and Dodge Ram, but not the Tundra. Not until a refresh of the 150 comes out soon will we know if it has drastically improved over the Tundra.
For now the Tundra will remain a good truck that everyone who drives a Ford and Chevy will hate. The Tundra has made its sales goal for this year, and that is all that Toyota cares about.
We are nearing year end the Tundra was 1/7 of Fords F Series sales last year... and domestics are not sitting still. we will see. The new Silverado is really great as well. This is about full size trucks not cars.
13;47 The F-150's sales don't make it a better truck than a Tundra. It isn't. It sells well mainly because it's a recognized name, it's cheap, and people buy a lot of them for fleet use. That's it. If you want the more popular truck, buy the Ford. If you want the better truck, buy the Toyota.
Had to find out for myself, I've owned nothing but Chevy Trucks and drive a F250 4WD company truck. This was not an easy choice for me, buying a Toyota, but I have no regrets, plenty of power handles good pulls and stops my Bass boat no problems... Great TRUCK!!
If you haven't priced an F-150 lately, I'd hardly say they sell because they are cheaper. A nicely equipped F-150 has a sticker price that makes you dizzy. Of course, it happens to be worth it.
Better truck to me is twice the warranty, absolute better ride, better far superior handling, better and stronger towing capability, much more load carrying capability in the bed, more room and people carrying capability...
If you own a new full size truck why remotely even consider giving up even one of the elements and decrease function and capability? The new domestics are far superior than the imports based on everything I have compared.
If Toyota gives me all the elements above irregardless of price with a few more amenities and new technological features I will buy one. I am not loyal to any brand, only the most features and benefits gets my money, but mainly the best dealer service without excuses.
The better truck has these elements; it's what you buy a full size truck for... there's less strain on the motor with loads, drivetrain, bed and towing has a lot of importance as at times I easily exceed a ton in the bed, and even with towing, the better heavier duty components in bumper to bumper heat and traffic are the reason I desire this.
I am a homeowner have done major renovations and carry heavy loads frequently, and then tow as well long distance. I do not want to be in a dealer in 2-3 years with 55,000 miles already accumulated hearing that I have no factory warranty left on mechanical issues...
I have a new Silverado and am very impressed on how well it is working out. Overall it's better to drive and stronger.
In our area the Toyota dealerships are discounting the Tundra thousands more than Ford is the F-150. You can buy a comparably equipped Tundra here far cheaper than an F-150. I suppose it may be due to all the bad press about all of Toyota's mass of problems, but Ford certainly isn't outselling them 8 to 1 based on price here. While Tundra is battling to stay off the "10 worst trucks" list, the F-150 is still (as always) rated as a best buy, as is the new Silverado.
I was reading a report of an accident in our area and felt that readers might enjoy it. I'm quoting word for word from the accident report:
"The impact scattered parts across the interstate. A drive shaft was in the median while other parts including bumpers and ENGINE FRAGMENTS were strewn around the truck. The REAR WHEELS of the truck were shoved forward by the impact. The front dash collapsed almost to the back of the driver's seat."
A report of an accident involving a "poorly built" domestic truck?? NO WAY. The vehicle involved was a 2004 Toyota Tundra supercab. Nor was this a horrendous head-on collision, but a rear-ender where both the Tundra and the other vehicle were going the SAME WAY.
I saw a photograph of the Tundra and was not overly surprised to see that simply the weight of the rear axle, differential, and tires had ripped the rear end loose from the flimsy frame and moved the rear tires about 18 inches forward. Needless to say, the driver was critically injured and may not survive. The driver of the domestic truck that the Tundra rear-ended was not seriously injured.
Yeah, domestics don't even bend when you crash another vehicle into them. They're magical. Give me a break. Let's assume that you base your decisions about what vehicle you buy on how it runs and for how long. In that case, Toyota is a better choice than any domestic every time.