2007 Toyota Tundra from North America - All Comments

11:01 My comment IS true, like it or not. GM and Ford have never made any vehicle that is comparable to a Toyota. That's just the way it is. If you actually research this without bias, you'd have no choice but to agree. There's decades of proof to back me up. Consumer Reports is just one small piece of the whole that proves me right.

18:59.

I agree, let's be calm. Even though we may disagree with what another person is saying, we do not have to be disagreeable about it.

Certainly every manufacturer has put out stinkers, as you say, but Toyota has been putting out stinkers since long before 2007. The sludge problem has been going on since 1996, and began at the same time as has the evaporative emissions control problem. The evaporative emissions problem has been resolved, but I have not seen any evidence that the sludge problem has. The braking and suspension problems with the Tundra too, have been around since day one. Perhaps they have been resolved in the new model. Time will tell.

The camshaft snapping problem in the new Tundra v8 is just joining us for 2007, but Toyota was not able to conceal that problem, and/or blame it on its customers like they did for so long with the sludge problem. Toyota would like people to think it this is just an isolated incident of a lapse in Toyota quality, but it is not. Thousands of people have have had had Toyota engine failures throughout the late 90's and this decade thus far. Just take a look at Consumer Affairs and this website, and you will see many years of documented Toyota problems.

Now Toyota has finally had to cut production to try and get a handle on all of the problems, but that does not mean problems had not been occurring for years. It just means they finally feel compelled to do something about it because people are starting to realize Toyota's of late have not been living up to all the hype. I see nothing about their track record that gives me any reason to believe they will get their act together any time soon.

OK, explain to me why Ford has not recalled the cylinder heads on the 5.4 triton? What about GM recalling the plastic intake manifolds on many of its vehicles. Yeah the domestics are so much better.

The warranty is better on domestics, and it sounds like import or domestic you are going to need it.

To 11/2 @ 17:05...

"Domestic automobiles have slowly improved, but are still many years behind in quality. They still show little concern with making fuel efficient vehicles, and that will ruin them eventually. They now have a couple of models like the Chevy Aveo and the Ford Focus, but they're ridiculous next to 30 years of engineering put into cars like the Corolla and Civic."

Um, the domestic automakers may still have some catching up to do, but they're not "many" years behind as you say. As for their "little" concern over making fuel efficient vehicles, GM is now building hybrid versions of their full size SUV's. I don't see any Japanese automaker doing that yet, not with a large SUV anyway! I also don't see the domestic auto industry neglecting their car lines for the most part. There's been a lot of activity in the fiercely competitive mid-size segment recently.

You import fanatics might want to reconsider your willingness to write off the domestic auto industry. Things aren't what they used to be!

Yeah toyota quality yep 3 millimeters of metal in the center pillar of the new camry yep quality heck my audi has heaver metal for the dash mounting. around 5 to 6 millimeters yep toyota world class. I guess it is fitting that the car would quiver at any hairy maneuvers just as their drivers would.

To 4:10; I don't think the mid-size car market is competitive at all; the Accord and Camry are still wiping the floor with everyone else, as usual. Only this year has GM finally began to consider making cars that someone might reasonably consider buying at today's gas prices. No way are they going to be a threat to people that have been buying Civics and Corollas for decades. The Aveo was a nice try, but it lacks all the refinement the can be found in a Civic or Corolla. I've driven the Aveo. It just feels like a small, cheap car, which is exactly what it is. The Civic is actually fun to drive, it corners well and engine is a pleasure to hear and feel. As usual, the GM product feels sloppy and cheap. They have a LONG way to go.

If you want to talk about recalls and flaws in automotive corporations, then I can't think of a worse case than that from GM. The single biggest problem GM has had, and continues to have is that they use Dexcool in their coolant systems.

This is the red, high mileage 150,000 mile stuff. Anyhow, the coolant has a tendency to collect and accumulate after 2-3 years on interior metal and plastic parts. As a result, it clogs heater cores, radiators, and narrow water outlets in the engine block. This is a major problem and as far as I know, GM hasn't recalled this despite the super-easy fix of simply changing the fluid.

So go on- bring up the 300 car recall from Toyota again... we're listening...

19:12 anything? Toyota does not even offer equivalent specs to my full size GM truck certainly not the payload or towing. Read the original Tundras reviewers comments and I am not seeing glowing praises afterwards on the list following as far as actual Tundra ownership. I look at full size truck specs and if a vehicle cannot perform as well on test drives and capability its totally worthless to me. This is a full size truck review lose the car comparisons and all the political banter. Lets see more Tundra, Titan, Ford F Series, Silverado owners comparisons that have owned 1 or 2 brand new ones within the past 5 years. No small trucks as well review equivalent or 3/4 ton models.

If comments are purely subjective and based on a commenter's opinion only, they have little value on this site. Unless an import fan can offer some evidence that anyone "smart enough to buy a Toyota would never buy anything else" is not very helpful to the import image in this country. It also doesn't explain the large number of Toyota Camry owners who say they will NEVER buy another Toyota, or the number of them who have traded their unreliable Camry's for Fusions or their unreliable Tundras for F-150's or Silverados (or GMC's). Please LOOK AT THE CAMRY AND TUNDRA REVIEWS before making such statements.

You know I find it funny, that in every Toyota review that there is a number of Domestic faithful that always want to bring up the few Sludge problems and very few with transmissions problems. They feel that Toyota should be strung up for this and they would never own one because of these problems. Yet, in the next breathe they will tell you they will only drive domestics because they don't have these problems.

Dodge 2.7 engines, have one of the worse design flaws that has caused extreme engine sludge. Most of these engines don't make it past 40k miles before blowing. Faithfuls and Dodge's response..."The people didn't take care of the regular maintenance." Doesn't matter that it has happened to just about everyone of them. (evidently no one does oil changes on their Dodge) Worst yet, this engine is still being used and Dodge still has not done anything to fix the problem.

GM/Chevy engine cooling systems. How many people have suffered from the Dexcool that is used. Clogged cooling systems and rotted seals before 60k. Faithful and GM's response "You should have flushed the system and replaced all the seals at 40k" Even though they say it doesn't need to have anything done to it before 100k. You guessed it still in use today.

GM/Chevy Transmissions Honestly I don't even know where to start. There is the faulty 3/4 bearing design on the 700R4 which causing loss of 3rd and 4th gears, still in use and still no recall. How about the 4t60 and 4t65 that GM has admitted (after lawsuits) is built in poor work conditions and may contain debris which could cause transmission failure, but if it happens after warranty you are S.O.L. Never recalled, but hey there is a number of service bulletins put out.

As far as Ford goes, you don't need to look any farther than than the reviews about their Contour, Taurus, Windstar and the Expedition and their numerous problems. Sorry I don't work on Fords so I can't give more details.

I am not saying that everything Toyota makes is perfect or that the domestics don't make any good vehicles. I am just saying you have a better chance of getting a problem free Toyota than a domestic.

If you really want to know which cars and trucks to avoid don't believe everything you read online or sales numbers. Your best bet is to look at which vehicles are being traded in the most and clogging up used section of the dealerships. There is a reason everyone is unloading it after 2 years.

Checking the Dealerships around Knoxville Tn. (online) I can't find one used Tundra at any dealership other than Toyota. There is 2 used Tacomas (2001 and 2004) between all the domestic dealerships. Checking just one Toyota dealership, they have a 2006 Dodge Ram 1500, 2005 Ford 150, 2006 Ford F-250, 2004 Ford Ranger, 2005 Chevy Silverado 2500HD, 2006 Chevy Colorado, and 2006 GMC 1500 Sierra. So as far as everyone dumping their Tundras and Toyotas to buy domestic as someone stated. Well it just doesn't seem to be that way here.

As far as the Tundra goes, my 2003 Limited with 128k miles has had no problems.

Something of interest for another topic. The tailgates on these are getting damaged with light loads such as fertilizer bags. How could this happen? Everyone including Consumer Reports is dogging Toyota over this Tundra AND the new Corolla...wow.

Any Toyota, the worst one ever built even, is many rungs up the ladder from a Ford or Chevy. I've owned them all. If someone told me they'd buy me a Ford truck, pay for it, and just let me drive it for free, I'd turn them down. I'd literally make the payments on my Toyota and still drive it instead of a free Ford. And Chevy trucks are even worse.

If mechanical is the direction that this is going, have an equivalent warranty standard 100,000 miles on Toyota. No since letting the manufacturer off the hook... match it in writing.

Has anyone commenting on here taken a Tundra and a new Silverado on a back winding road and compared the handling, room and comfort? Took me a few miles and I came back and bought GM.

I haven't spent a dime on repairs other than expected basic filter changes, fluids tires and brakes as well.

Again and again we get caught up in car conversations on a full size truck review. Even if it's a car comparison, drivability and handling come before settling with driving boring basic bland appliances I'm sorry to say.

I hit the car shows and the dealerships, and continue to test them thoroughly every 2-3 years. And buy not dream. That's a difference, and I do not live in the past.

Guess I enjoy driving too much to lower my expectations that a car is just a car to drive from point A to point B. More important, it doesn't break than to enjoy driving?

I'll take durability and drivability; both present with new domestic full size trucks.

17:59 sums it up the hype is unreal. You would turn down a new 3/4 ton domestic pickup truck for free to make payments on an new smaller import.

I have had numerous company vehicles, and rest assured import/domestic I could care less. That's OK as it beats having a mortgage with new paid for vehicles I have had, and just pay taxes on personal use.

I cannot imagine why someone would want a Tundra when they can own a far superior domestic diesel 3/4 ton domestic pickup.

A Tundra cannot tow my boat (low tow ratings) or have the load capacity, room or warranty.

The domestic Tahoe hybrid is 2008 Green Vehicle of the year, matching Camry's city mpg, and the new Silverado hybrid is also a great example of the latest domestic technology advancements.

I can read about 1980 GM models someone once owned or old Toyota 10 year plus models, but what is the point reiterating 10-20 year old archaic technology? If you own a 2007-08 full size truck, you have my attention however.