2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 from North America - Off Topic Comments

Nope. GM sells more vehicles world-wide than Toyota, and also sells more in the US. Also, Ford was not asking for money. If the rest of your "facts" are as reliable as these, then you can't expect to convince anybody that Japanese is better than American.

It's silly to say any auto maker is in "perfect shape". NONE are, and Toyota and Honda sales ARE down more than Ford. That's a fact. If Ford (which, incidentally DID NOT go begging for a bailout) is selling more cars than Toyota in this poor economy it can ONLY be due to the fact that they produce better vehicles with a far better warranty, as no other factors have changed. And in spite of all the wailing to the contrary, the Ford Fusion IS the highest rated car in reliability.

The list of best selling vehicles for 2008, including both cars and trucks, was just published.

The highest selling vehicle was the Ford F-150 (for the 27th year in a row I believe); the second highest selling vehicle was the Chevy Silverado; and, the ninth highest selling vehicle was the Dodge Ram.

Neither the Toyota Tundra nor any other Toyota "truck" was on the list.

It isn't any surprise to see the F-150 make the number 1 slot in sales again, nor was the second place Silverado any surprise either. Businesses, both large and small, have long bought large domestic trucks that have proven themselves for decades as reliable work vehicles. Our companies use the F-150, the Chevy trucks, the Ranger and full size vans from all of the Big Three. It's important to have vehicles that can not only perform the required tasks, but do it without constant repairs.

The 100,000 mile warranty has made GM vehicles even more attractive to business men because of less concerns about repairs. Also, a great majority of company owners prefer to support American industries by purchasing American products. I know we do. I just can't see Tundra becoming an accepted company vehicle for a very long time if ever among the average American business owners.

Look, you "domestic" guys can say whatever you want. ONE truck that sells well, like the Ford F150, does NOT save the company. The fact is, in THIS country, EACH of the Big 3 are begging for a bailout so they don't go bankrupt. YES, Ford also. Their CEO was sitting there too being grilled as well as ridiculed (appropriately) because of their plea for money.

It's easy to pick a particular vehicle and talk about its sales. Here's one for you domestic guys: Toyota sold more Camry's last year than ALL Chrysler cars COMBINED. A lot more, actually, not even close. You guys just can't seem to deal graciously with the fact that the your favorite companies are just about out of business because they make crap and don't know how to function financially as well as Toyota. But, mainly for the first reason... people want (and buy) good cars, so they buy Toyotas and Hondas instead of Dodge or GM junk. Sorry if you can't accept the truth.

Actually Ford asked for credit if they need it. They said they believe they will be all right.

"EACH of the Big 3 are begging for a bailout so they don't go bankrupt"

No, Ford was NOT "begging for a bailout". Ford was involved to support GM and Chrysler because if ANY of the domestic makers goes under it means disaster for the entire country, as well as a good part of the world. Ford has plenty of money to weather 2009, and by then the tide of renewed patriotism and support for American industries will have put them back in good shape financially.

And in spite of all the ranting, Ford STILL is losing less sales than Toyota and Honda. No company that is afraid to offer a decent warranty is going to inspire a lot of buyer confidence.

Toyota is reporting a loss this year. They should learn how to build cars so that would not happen.

Toyota's sales are down as well so what's your point? Forgetting about sales volumes or politics, what specific reason do you walk in and then buy a new full size truck? I buy function and applications rather than run a talk show/stockholder meetings at a new truck dealership. It's not just a car that you jump in and turn a key. Utility, function, features, benefits, warranty and even appearance the Ford F Series is much sharper. Maybe the mechanical reliability has hurt Tundra sales or value...

At any rate it's not making a dramatic dent compared to the new domestic full sizes. Maybe you had issues in 1980 not seeing any problems whatsoever in our new trucks.

Both the high cost of fuel (which has now temporarily dropped) and major reliability issues have hurt Tundra sales. It never was any serious competition for the Big Three trucks among company owners are others looking for reliability and serious hauling capability. It is great for someone such as the reviewer, who leaves it sitting in the garage most of the time. For actual daily use a domestic truck is generally a better bet.

19:24 how does your Camry comment differ any than the best selling truck in America? Plus go to consumeraffairs.com and look at Camry issues? Toyotas sales are down the past 2 quarters and the Tundra sales were never that great to be significant as compared to the domestics. Since this is a full size truck review it is quite pertinent to compliment the highest rated domestic full size trucks on here. People are not buying a lot of Tundras vs. Ford F Series. I drove them myself and compared and did not buy a Tundra.

Ford makes junk. The F-150 is a piece of junk. I wouldn't take one for free, which might be Ford's next sales ploy.

I switched to Toyota a long time ago and never looked back.

Ford, GM, and especially Dodge are a joke. Their time is over. Obviously. Better products are available and people are buying them.

The first thing I read when I picked up my newspaper today was a big headline about Toyota losing money. When it was the Big Three losing money it was always "because they build crap". I guess someone else must be building "crap" now too?

Tundra sales are tanking, so, oddly enough, are PRIUS sales.

"Ford makes junk. The F-150 is a piece of junk"

An interesting comment about a vehicle that has been tops in sales by a huge margin for 3 DECADES.

Yes, Toyota posted an annual loss of 1.7 Billion dollars. It is the first loss in 71 years for their company. I knew that you domestic guys would jump all over that, but before you do, perhaps it helps to see just how much money GM alone has lost over the last several years. In 2007, GM posted a $39 Billion dollar loss for just the 3rd quarter. In August, 2008, GM posted a $15.5 Billion dollar loss. In November of 2008, they posted a $12 Billion dollar loss.

So in less than 2 years, GM alone has lost close to $63 Billion dollars, or approximately 17 times the amount lost by Toyota.

Once again, the story here shows what most people already know, which is that GM, Ford, and Chrysler are in deep, deep trouble, and what's more, they didn't do it by building great cars or in managing their companies appropriately. In our capitalist country, money talks. That's the cold hard facts, and even if Ford sells more full size trucks than Toyota, it obviously isn't working as they along with GM and Chrysler will likely be out of business in less than a year.