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I have had no faults as of yet. So pretty pleased with reliability so far.
The car is quick hits 60 in low 8 sec. But doesn't have the acceleration to 60mph/100mph as my previous car Punto hgt. Hgt was FAR faster, it was in group insurance 14/15 and a 1.8 16v.
Other than that it is a pleasant drive and quite easily sees off plenty of cars.
Not as many gadgets as my old hgt also. Miss my HGT.
Well, yes, okay, but your issues with the car are basic traits rather than faults.
If the car isn't fast enough or had an interior you couldn't get on with then why did you buy it?
I have tried both: HGT and C2VTS. Both of them represent the new generation of street racers. HGT replaces the Punto GT and C2vts the Saxo vts. Now I think what you are trying to say is that C2VTS lacks the "Italian race feeling" of HGT, but it is not slower than the HGT. You must try C2 after 15,000 km where the engine shows what it can do. HGT it has more space, but it is not as good as the C2vts in handling. C2vts is made to go fast into the corner and get out even faster. Also the feeling you get from the steering wheel is amazing: as driving a kart. Good value for money, but probably it needs 5bhp more...
C2 VTS... Well I love mine, it looks the business without being over the top, its nippy, handles nicely, & you can park it in so many places other drivers could only dream about!
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C2 vts has 116 bhp per ton, Punto HGT has 134 bhp per ton + a lot more torque. So yes it IS faster.
I have driven both, HGT has a lot more in gear acceleration and is far quicker to 60 and 100mph.
HGT has a 1.8 vvti engine + weighs less also insurance group 14/15.
C2 VTS has a 1.6 16v + weighs more insurance group 8.
The c2 vts is quicker on paper to 60 by.3 seconds and the punto hgt is quicker top end by 1mph so it really depends on the driving. I own a c2 vts and personally I think it is far better looking than a punto as does everyone I know, and is practically a brand new car where the punto has been around since I can remember. I am more than happy with my c2 vts and certainly wouldn't consider swapping it for a punto!
I own a c2 vts and have to say that it is a quick car, but I can tell you from first hand experience that it is "no way" quicker than a punto hgt. My brother in law owns a hgt and it will quite happily see off my c2 vts by some margin. As someone else said, its lighter has more torque and bhp, hence a better power to weight ratio.
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I OWN A C2VTS AND I've BEEN READING THE COMMENTS OF THE PERSON WITH THE HGT...
Straight-line speed is not required when you're booting it round corners on a twisty back-road. The C2 is very crisp and true with its steering, if you get chance I urge you to have a go in one because you'll soon forget about your Punto.
I'd also like to add that the C2 is very very cheap to run and insure, which leaves more money for modifications. The engine has heaps of potential and the 160bhp conversion would see your Punto off with ease for little expense.
I do admit that I was a little disappointed with the car's torque, although a decent induction kit and exhaust system would cure this... With this in the mind, the engine is really rev-happy and goes all the way to 7k with ease, so with these mods, this would be an absolutely brilliant go-kart style racer, which will be capable of sixty in sub 7 seconds...
But even without these mods, I think that if we were on a twisty road "you in the HGT", you'd struggle to keep up (until the straight) and even on the straight youd only "keep up" because I honestly don't think you'd beat the C2 when it's high in its gears and revving well.
Why would you mod a C2 VTS, and then say it's faster than a standard HGT Punto? That's not what Citroen put out.
I'm after a C2 VTS, but I'm unsure as the safety issues have made the little VTS put on weight.
What Citroen needs is to put a 2 litre engine in upcoming sporty hatchbacks, while looking at keeping the price right for younger drivers.
Yes, but that's the whole point; that its only a 1.6 so its reasonably cheap and its possible to insure for younger lads like me. I have raced an hgt and yes, he was pulling up on straights, but was completely outclassed around the bends.
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Hi I like the VTS, but you all have the Citroen madness, you think your car is the best. Don't get me wrong, it is a good car for a 17 year old first car. At the end of the day it's a box with a 1.6 Saxo lump in it. Citroen want you young lads to think it has lots of power, but if you get one on the dyno their figures are lower than stated, whereas the HGT is made for the 20 year old market, so they don't need to lie about figures to keep insurance down. The HGT is 130 bhp on paper, but if it's dynoed then you see it's more like 140-150bhp, plus 0-60 is not right, because at Fiat and most Italian car makes, it is 0-62, which is 8.3, so 0-60 is more like 7.5. Plus it has uprated springs so it handles better than the Citroen.
The Punto HGT has 133bhp stock, but as said above pushes 140-150bhp stock, also weighs less than the C2 VTS, and has more torque. So yes it's quicker! "BUT" they have HIGH insurance, group 15 I think; also fuel consumption is POOR, and oil consumption is high.
So what would I choose? The C2 VTS.
Faster, big deal! Look at the high insurance group, and the fuel economy, and it's a Fiat!
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Its 14 and what do you meen it's a fiat??? citron is a bag of rubish its frech for a start fiat is italion and runs ferrie so are they no good?? look at the competishon. clio sport 106 gti starlet turbo mx5 fiesta st/rs escort rs civic vti crx vti corsa sri nova gte astra gte/sri
mr2 golf gti polo gti rover mgzr.look now the citron saxo/c2vts dusnot look so hot there are lots of cars that will make citron run for cuver and most of thes cars will. vts is for the fiesta s and people that do up rovers and thik its wel god ooohhhh nonono.
So whoever it was who reckons that cos the HGT's 0-60 is 8.3 because it is actually recorded at 62 thinks that that extra 2 mph is going to make 0.7 second difference!!But anyway, how can anyone under the age of 25 even get insured, never mine afford it, on the punto that is the same insurance group as a 2.5 litre BMW 3 series!! A slightly quicker 60-100 time on the punto, simply cannot justify the its half as good looks or double the insurance.
I am a qualified racing driver, I clock times for various cars around various tracks and I am afraid, Punto drivers, that across all varieties of tracks (long straights, tights turns...) the C2 VTS was in fact quicker, lapping at a good few seconds lower in some cases. And personally I would choose the VTS, not just for the better performance, but also for style, comfort, safety and so on...