2000 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution WRC Rally Spec from UK and Ireland - Comments

It's always amusing reading comments from Europe. You guys got strange cars over there...anyways... I didn't know what an Evo was so I looked it up... quite fast I must admit, but looks like the typical Jap piece of junk. Can't they design a car that doesn't look it's a plastic toy that should be in a kids commercial. I think you all should all be driving a TVR cerbera, now That's a mean looking car.

Those EVOS wouldn't hold up over here in N. America, people would just make fun of you. Besides, my Z06 Corvette Roadster would smoke it, and looks like a REAL car should.

Keep your EVOS, keep your imprezas, keep your mitsus, keep your cosworths (didn't even bother looking that up)

and just keep the crap over there period.

Thanks for your time.

PS. Britian, import us some TVRs!

I own a Series 6 RX7, a Supra TT, an Escort Cossie and a 32 GTR and by far, the Cossie is the easiest and cheapest to extract serious performance from. With an Ahmed chip, upgraded injectors, fuel pump, 3 bar map sensor which altogether cost less than 1,000 quid and no other mods, the Cossie does 0-100kmh in 4.2 sec as measured by Option Fans magazine (sorry a Hong Kong publication) and is currently the title holder in the sub 2,500cc turbo class on that mag. Compared this with the second fastest time of 4.75 sec from a seriously modded Evo 6.5 Mackinnen that has its engine capacity increased to 2,083cc, HKS twin plate clutch, HKS intercooler on standard titanium turbos, the capability of the Cossie engine is obvious. Mind you, the time was achieved with my standard clutch slipping hopelessly in second. The cossie is a car that can easily do a 3.9 with minimum mods. If anyone still has doubt on the capability of a mildly modified Cossie, look no further than the size of the Garett T34 turbo, compare it to the standard Evo and Subaru turbos and you'll understand why.

All this stuff about EVOs is garbage. I've got a mini with a tuned 1275 a-series which does 0-60 in just 3 seconds on dry tarmac, and that's certified (or is it me that's certified..?). I don't need turbos, fuel injection or traction control, just twin SUs, a high lift cam and an LCB exhaust. The halfords chrome tailpipe makes all the difference, and on the rolling road there was a 75bhp increase after fitment!

Buy a mini and waste EVOs, scoobys, cossies et al.

Zzz… Oh dear! The Japanese ‘Plastic Fantastic’ brigade, have got there knickers in a twist. They seem to have forgot, that Ford were building and racing 550bhp RS500 Cosworth’s in 1987, before the likes of Impreza’s and Lancer’s were ever thought of! A high performance Japanese 2000cc, 4 cylinder, DOHC, turbocharged 16v? Better late than never!

Well guys, the LANCER evo isn`t anything in japan. They usually upgraded the turbo`s and ECU`s to get over 400++ bhp easilly without damaging or overhouling the engine.

The turbo is very common in japan... almost any car in japan can upgrade a turbo to beat up any porche`s easilly.

And you should know the japanese are crazy and they always race on public highway on the speed over 300 kph. And they like to race on narrow and curve hill roads to maximize their excitement.

I'd take a nicely tuned Integrale anyday of the EVO... it can be made to be quicker, it's got a fundamentally better chassis, the acceleration figures of a tuned Integrale are untouchable...isn't there a guy out there with a modified Integrale EVOII that's pumping out 750 HP with nitrous... clocked to 60 in 2.2 seconds...lol...let's see an EVO come even half way there.

I've driven an Escort Cosworth, Evo 7 and Impreza WRX STi within 2 weeks of each other. To be honest, they're all brilliant, but I would sum them up as follows:

Escort - most fun to throw around. Utterly brilliant chassis, and superb steering. Best built of the lot (pretty much handbuilt by Karmann in Germany, not on a Ford production line) Engine rough sounding and the styling looks a bit naff these days, but still a wonderful car to drive. Has more character than both the Jap cars put together, but standard performance is not good enough to match them. Easily fixed though.

Impreza - snappier than the Escort and less easy to explore its limits. Utterly gorgeous engine which sounds better than almost anything else and goes like a rocket. Horrible steering and interior looks like it cost 20p. But oh that engine! My least favourite of the three, although I'd still have one!

Evo - Ultimately more capable than both, although still not as communicative as the Cosworth. Mindblowing handling, second best engine of the two. If I had Tommi Makinen's ability I'd pick this because it is most capable. As I'm not, I'd go for the one that makes me feel most heroic to drive. The Cossie's still got it. As the used values show.

A girl here at work has rebuilt an EVO 2 to deliver (wait for it) over 600 hp at the wheels. First drag run was 11.8 seconds on a wet strip. For sheer performance on real roads Evo anyday, any of them. My favourite, Evo 6.5. for driveabilty and outright mindblowing cornering. We've got it's big brother, the '96 2.5litre V6 Twin Turbo VR4 with all the AYC, 4WD etc. Still a mindblower, and its got leather interior, aircon, tiptronic, sweet sounds. Wolf in sheeps clothing. Rips off 5 litre holdens, fords for launch and cornering. Only speed limited by the 180kph chip, easy fixed.

Any knockers re chassis and strength, forget it, I'd rather take a hit in an EVO / VR4 than any yank tank tin box. Side bar intrusion beams, Crossbrace suspension struts, nth/sth sub engine bracing. Most yank tanks still wallow around bends. Besides which they'd have to catch us first... lol... not likely..

Remember, this is just a production car, off the factory line. Not a hotrod special... Mitsi forever!!

Integrales are very flimsy and break down very often, and are only available in LHD.

Cossie's are only more expensive because there are less of them. I think its better that the Jap cars are more affordable.

The turbo lag on the high pressure turbo Cossies is terrible, although I agree that it is very quick once it kicks in.

The EVO is a much more nimble car than a Cossie.

The cossie started it all. Without the rs500 sierra there wouldn't be any flimsy tin can 2ltr turbo japanese cars out there. I know some one with an impreza 2002 and all I can say is clutch gone at 30,000 mls (doe's not drive that hard), when you shut the boot it sounds like shutting the doors on a trnsit van (crap build quality) and last, but no means least the fear of many a scooby driver,!DETONATION! Don't waste your money buy the sensible and cheapest to tune choice the cossie.

P.s if I had to buy a turbo japanese car i'd get a pulsar gti-r and eat scooby's and evo's for brekkie.

I realise to talk about insurance in the same sentence as performance cars is to rain on your parade. But it's getting to the point where you either eat or insure your car. How much are you sacrificing? Holidays, new clothes, girl friends, drinking with mates, going to football... The Brit. government is going to let the insurers price you off the road before you’re much older. When would say, "Too expensive"? £5,000, £10,000, £15,000: There has to be a point where you say. "Enough is enough". You're not only paying through the nose for the car, the operating cost are a rip off, too. When you live in Japan the cars are some 60% of UK prices, the insurance is a song, and when you pay for a service, the garage conscientiously does the work. Problem, very limited opportunity to use the performance. My point? If driving is your passion, then you need to dust off your exit strategy and identify a country like Britain was in the '60's.

I was at south-end cruise last week and the car that stole the show was an Evo 6. it was bulling everyone and there was a lot of cars there. its got me thinking of getting 1. I want 2 get an Evo 6 ralliart, but does anyone know the spec difference between the factory 6 and a ralliart 6?

Cossies were great, now they are expensive collectors items. Japanese cars have lots of cheap add ons and heaps of cheap power. If the clutch goes it because you have heaps of torque, so get a better one next time.

EVO's are fast, that's why people are looking at this report.

Ford's go fast after you spend lots of money on them. If you want an old car, then you shouldn't be looking here.

Buy a ford Typhoon (4litre turbo, 270kw) and no traction.

2nd hand Evo and Sub Sti are $10000 to $16000 here in NZ

That's 3330-5000 pound UK. Is that cheap enough for you?

Evo's are amazing machines, they are just too fast and are real death machines.