1983 Toyota Crown Super from UK and Ireland - Comments

I agree with the comment above, people are getting too worked up over this car and similar cars to boot. It was a cheap sedan made by Toyota over 20 years ago and is nothing special at all. There have been hundreds of great cars from both Japanese and American auto manufacturers, before 1983 and after it. Guys, try investing your time, money, and knowledge into those cars that are surely worth more than $25.

However I'll admit it, you can't keep a good Toyota down, especially ones from the 80s or 90s. They will be keep running despite everything else falling apart.

In response to the last two comments made, I am restoring a Crown as it was my Dad's car. Yes the vehicle is worth peanuts financially. But very few vehicle restorers spend their spare time considering the costs involved, let alone the time! If you restored an 'E' type Jaguar or a classic American car, you would always lose out financially. The market value of the car is irrelevant in this case.

My brother has been restoring a 1971 Toyota Crown station wagon for 10 years now. The car was born as an ambulance dedicated to serve in the Navy. We nicknamed it "The Whale" because of its size and shape.

I got the chance to drive it once, very heavy steering, 3 speed manual transmission. My brother does not want to drive it since it is quite thirsty and troublesome to manuever.

So...he will give the car to me, I will start driving and taking care of it next month.

The car is very rare, I do not know how many of this Crown station wagon are still alive. More info next month.

"If you restored an 'E' type Jaguar or a classic American car, you would always lose out financially."

Yeah, I'm sure the guys selling their '71 Hemi 'Cudas for over $100,000 are really taking a big financial loss...

Perhaps he should have distinguished between professional restorers and those who do it as a hobby.

The former (at least the good ones) do make money off their restorations, because they know the market value of the restored vehicle and how much it will cost to restore it, so they know what to pay in order to make a profit when they sell it. Because they are doing it to make a profit, they do not typically have any sentiment about the vehicle they are restoring other than possibly how much money it will make for them.

Hobbyists, on the other hand, like the guy with his dad's Crown, are motivated by a fondness for a particular vehicle, either because they like that particular model or because some close friend or family member once owned it. Either way, there is not the profit motive and usually if they do sell, it is at a loss or at best a break even. See how many old car for sale ads state that they have spent 2-3 times on the car as the amount they are selling it for. You can make a profit if you know what you are doing, but that is not what the old car hobby is really about. Sadly, there seem to be way too many "hobbyists" now whose biggest concern is how much their car (or cars) are worth and how much they are appreciating. Their cars spend all their time in a garage and if they do take it to a show, it goes there on a trailer; they won't drive them out of fear of causing damage and thereby reducing their value. They are less motivated by any particular love for the car and more by its investment value. You can recognize them at car shows: they're the ones whose cars are festooned with "do not touch" signs or are even roped off so no one can get closer than 5 feet from the car. I have a lot more respect for those who drive their cars to the shows and aren't as concerned about smudges on the window glass from spectators.

I own a Toyota crown Royal Saloon 1986 ms125 6mgeu model and I have driven it more

Than 125000 km on LPG fuel is very expensive in India. I brought it from an auction from an industrial house (owning a famous automobile unit which is also exporting cars from India) making them accessible to best of the best. After the purchase I changed the battery, lubricants, got it dry-cleaned from inside and fitted LPG Gives 100 km on 14 kg of LPG It had a Sony TV fitted in between the front seats a 12 disc CD changer all seats including the rear ones where electronically operated the dual ac with fridge had oscillation mode with controls at rear for both ac and music system sunroof factory alloys etc, etc. 0 to 100 km with auto transmission 8.25 sec. till date I have only changed engine oil battery & tires it is as reliable as a colt 1911 never, never let me down 200 bhp may be puny by today’s standard 0to 100,in 8.25 in India means some thing not bad for a 20 year old car my job makes me wear a gun at times and I carry a Ruger.38 spl again puny by today’s standard but absolutely ready for instantaneous action, what I mean to emphasize is that Toyota crown was way ahead of its time It was reliable robust and classy only Toyota could withstand a careless guy like me if want to see the pics visit msn classic crown website and open Brunei photo folder (they have not added INDIA in there section) the white one with sunroof is mine. Only thing I can say is I have faith in it.

I own a very rare, low mileage 1983 Crown (UK) after many years seeking a good one. There are not many good ones left. With air con front and rear and a fridge, they were years ahead of their time, and despite some of the reviews, when compared to a Granada 2.8i they are very quick off the mark - 120mph, 0-60 in 9ish seconds. Not bad even by today's standards...

The ride is a very 'american' and you don't throw them round corners, but hey, if you want a sports car, you don't buy a Crown do you?

A nice, extremely comfortable, well equipped tourer that is a bit different - that's the Crown...

In Japan, Toyota Crown are mainly used as company cars, by government agencies, as well as taxi; which possibly explain the soft suspension setup. It will be equivalent to Peugeot 605, Opel Senator in Europe or Holden Statements in Australia.

I was surprised how many MS112 and MS102 are on the road when I moved to Melbourne 3 years ago; these cars really last a long time. But the Aussie told me it costed considerable more than the bigger Holden when they were new.

Just for curiosity, when I went back to Japan last year, I managed to find a decommissioned-ex-company 2.8 MS112 for a spin. It was not too bad, a lot of roll of course, but it is more refined than my own 1990 Saab 900 hatch. To the extend that it makes the Saab feel like the final draft of a pre-production model - still have imperfections to be ironed out.

Also Toyota Celsior is Lexus LS400/430. This is because Toyota did not use the Lexus brand in domestic market until last year.

Hi I'm restoring an 1982 super saloon. I have fixed the air con and the horn. Now I am getting started on the rusty chassis, holes on car, wheel arches then have it resprayed. If you own one email me at keichu@btinternet.com for help or advice.

Hey guys. I am looking for the original in-dash CD changer for a 2003 Crown Royal Saloon. I acquired this unit from Japan, but can't seem to get much support for parts or accessories from Japan. Please help.

There were lots of 'Crowns' sold in the US - there it is called the 'Cressida'.