2004 Hummer H2 from North America - Comments

"Clearly, you couldn't have meant to be taken seriously with that logic. How many older Suburbans are out running around out there getting 9 mpg? That's why I don't like them; because they're wasteful, excessive, junk and they are a problem for everyone. The Prius gets something like 55 or 60 mpg; part of the solution to these problems. There is no fault in that logic."

So what's your point? Why do you care what other people wish to drive? I don't think you'll be fitting a family of 5 or 6 into a tiny Prius and expect decent performance. That thing is abmyssal as it is. The Prius DOES NOT GET THE CLAIMED MPG. PROVEN. Look at any automotive magazine, or Edmunds and such, and you will find that the reported real life mpg is 30-45. Big difference. I happen to own an older Suburban, 88 to be exact. Your 9mpg is rather off, because mine gets an average of 16mpg. You're a very stereotypical person. You see a large vehicle and you automatically assume that the people using them are being wasteful and are big meenies. Why do you have to bash other peoples decisions in their vehicles, whether it be personal taste or needs. Your personal taste is a Toyota Prius. So what? No one goes around and bashes your car. And there's one thing you should remember, annoy the wrong person and they just might end up flattening your car into the ground and driving on like nothing happened.

13:28; That is just the kind of comment that I would expect from someone trying to justify driving a Suburban or a Hummer.

Maybe what you would expect, but funny!

The Prius sucks off road. It won't meet my needs. Go drive one if you like... I don't want one, and I don't want someone like you, making the rules for me.

I can envision 2 Prius to take a family with luggage on a trip or just one domestic SUV necessary to carry all. I also can see a Prius being towed by retirees that own mobile homes and unhitch them at campgrounds. I can also envision a very large out of warranty bill to fix one down the road that only a dealership could handle. I can also see someone living very far away to get to their job buying one instead of moving closer to work and likely using considerably less fuel. I have a very comfortable domestic SUV and work 3 miles away and on weekends can easily carry the entire family and can converse and be together. Its seems more practical in my opinion to consider all the options besides fuel only.

I have a 1987 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, 187,000 miles on it that I paid 650 dollars for, gets better gas mileage, and pulled my buddies H2 over an 8" hump that it got stuck on. All these things are is for EGO! I mean COME ON!!! give it up. these things are all for image.

Hi all, I'm from the UK, and have a big interest in all cars.

One thing all Prius and Insight etc. owners seem to be forgetting/haven't mentioned... the batteries used in the Prius and Insights have a life expectancy of approx. 6yrs/60k miles before they need replacing at about $4k in US dollars! On top of that what do you think happens to the old batteries? The disposal of all those batteries used in the Prius etc. will inevitably create more so called 'pollution' than any 4x4 or SUV would over a 20 year period. Fact!

This comes from a hot hatch driver so totally unbiased, the green peace nonsense has gone way OTT.

As long as people drive those big 4x4's responsibly i.e. not trying to tailgate or knock people off the road, I don't see the big deal people are making out of it, I personally like them for what they were made for (going off road!) I wouldn't want to drive one everyday, but they are fun on a course!.

I want to see the proof that these 4x4's are responsible for any climate change or any other car for that matter! You want to know something Greenpeace? The big rig lorries and wagons that deliver all our goods up and down the roads day after day, do approximately 4mpg! LOL what you gonna do, make everyone starve??? Haha.

Hi all.

I'm from the uk and was just looking through the comments made regarding prius and the h2.

One thing people havn't mentioned here is that the prius battery life is only approx. 60k miles or 6 years, what do you think happens to the waste batteries when the originals fail? ill tell you what there melted down and recycled and used in various other ways, this process creates more of the so called 'pollution' than an average large 4x4 does in 15 years!, how's that for irony?

People have a right to buy what they want and greenpeace or any other organisation should'nt stop them from doing so, 4x4's are great on a trail and a lot of fun.

That's all the global warming malarkey has ever been about, scaremongering evryone, if there really was any damage it's much too late to do anything about it now anyway.

I think the comparison between a Prius and a Hummer is way too off... you cannot compare a compact car to a large 4X4. Guess the idea is somewhat s_ _ _ _ d. Anyway's if giving a chance of budget will trade my compact car to a prius for my day to day commute and will get a Hummer SUT (really love this truck) for my outdoor activities which includes fishing in the padre island of TX. can't go to the fishing site if you do not have 4X4 and sometimes when its high tide you will probably be driving on a 2 ft of sea water just to go in & out of the fishing site. Therefore if I will have both vehicles and that they will definitely serve different purpose.

I dislike Hummers, as I dislike most SUVs/trucks. Not because they're ugly, too big, whatever - because they're wasteful. They waste gas. A natural resource. A LIMITED resource - it won't be around forever. One we are mostly dependent on foreign countries for. High gas prices? You can't possibly make an argument that gas-guzzlers aren't helping to hike those prices. The larger the demand, the higher the prices. It's a contributing factor.

We should all be able to pursue happiness - Yes, this is America, land of getting what we want and living how we want, but honestly... that's not sustainable. A country cannot operate and last and be successful on a long-term basis when it's population is living with such a selfish mindset. It is not sustainable. Again. It Is Not Sustainable.

Everyone has to do their part, in some way - no, this doesn't mean abandoning driving and buying a bike, eating tofu for every meal and buying only organic, etc., etc. Just be mindful and aware of what impact your choices have on ALL of us. This includes the environment, everyone's safety, gas prices, the economy, everything. There are always repercussions to living a wasteful, greedy life.

You don't have to go out and buy a Prius either. I don't understand that - why people feel like the only gas-saving option is to buy a hybrid. I drive an eight year old sedan that gets 32mpg in combined city-highway driving. Hybrids, at this point, are wasteful too. The energy that goes into producing them, especially those batteries... come on. And the price tag? Hybrids are a good possibility, but not yet. There's a lot of kinks that need to be worked out.

My bottom line is that people do not NEED an SUV or truck unless their livelihood depends on it... they're a rancher, farmer, construction worker, etc. People confuse wants with needs. An SUV might make things easier at times... but do you NEED it? No.

"I dislike Hummers, as I dislike most SUVs/trucks. "

Then don't buy one.

"My bottom line is that people do not NEED an SUV or truck unless their livelihood depends on it... they're a rancher, farmer, construction worker, etc. "

That's not really up to you to decide, though, is it? You don't know what people use them for, or why they have them. Maybe they needed a vehicle, and happened to get a really good deal on an SUV. Maybe they only drive it 3,000 miles per year, and it gets 25 mpg. But you don't care about that. You only know that when you see it on the highway, you hate it. Why do people have to justify anything to you? Go ahead and drive your 8-year old sedan if it fits your needs. Nobody is stopping you. But you seem to think that everybody else is wrong except you.

See, now you're jumping to conclusions. I didn't say anybody is wrong or anybody is right. I recognize that different people need and want different things - it depends on your job, where you live, the size of your family, etc. etc.

My feelings do not come from just "seeing SUVs on the highway", they come from being friends with, co-workers with, and family to SUV and truck owners, and even strangers I've talked to about it (See, you're making assumptions too). Less than a handful have actually needed it in the true sense of the word - they depended on it to live (owned or worked in a business that *required* the ability to haul), and one just had a lot of kids. Every other answer I've heard has been that they simply like it, or they feel safer in it. Neither of those is a *need*.

My point boils down to wanting vs. needing. I believe in conserving and doing whatever is in your power to contribute to that. Driving something that gets <20 mpg is far from conserving. Again, it goes back to my previous comment - it's not sustainable on a long term basis for a population to live with only their own interest in mind. You have to consider the domino effect of so many decisions you make, how they impact the entire economy, the environment, others' health. But people don't care about that - they want what they want when they want it and don't want to hear anything different or consider other options. That's an American mindset in particular, and one that's gotten us in quite a bit of trouble. I just can't see why so many don't want to admit or recognize that.

SUVs and trucks are for the most part wasteful. So are some older sedans. So are hybrids, in terms of the energy that goes into manufacturing them. I should have been clearer in my initial comment - if it's wasteful we should be making every effort to avoid driving those vehicles. It has to do with the responsibility each of us has towards our community and our planet. You complain about rising food prices... rising gas prices... rising taxes... rising everything... yet you're part of the problem. You consume and purchase more than you need, finance things you don't need and that many can't afford and never finish paying off... etc. It's all tied together. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

If you want to drive an SUV or truck... sure, go for it. But you have no right whatsoever to complain about the cost of gas, insurance, your car payment, or even the cost of living. You no longer have a leg to stand on. Lie in the bed you make.

"22nd Jun 2008, 17:52.

See, now you're jumping to conclusions. I didn't say anybody is wrong or anybody is right. I recognize that different people need and want different things - it depends on your job, where you live, the size of your family, etc. etc."

Who is jumping to conclusions? Who is it that someone who doesn't even own a Hummer, much less an SUV or pickup, yet feels compelled to start a blog on a Hummer review, trying to tell people to get educated about life choices? Who is it that has made the assumption that anybody driving a Hummer, SUV, or truck needs to make a better choice, and must be selfish? Who is it that says "everybody else should do this, everybody does that...?" Call it judgmental, sanctimonious, holier-than-thou, or whatever.