2002 Volkswagen Golf GTi 150 BHP 1.8 turbo petrol

Summary:

Savage for price

Faults:

I had a year 2000 GTI Polo before the Golf. Although a lovely car to drive, I had problems with the gearbox and clutch.

My Golf GTI 1.8 150BHP is a great car. Bought at 76000 miles. 89000 Miles now on it, and the only thing wrong with it are the front wishbone bushings have gone. I cannot fault this car at all. With a Revo SPS1 box, this can put the BHP up to around 195. And the turbo responds nice at lower revs up around 4500.

General Comments:

Handles good on corners.

Quick off the mark.

Top speed 145 MPH.

0-60 around 6.8 secs.

MPG around 32.

Suspension firm but comfortable.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 27th September, 2010

2002 Volkswagen Golf GT TDI 130 1.9 turbo diesel

Summary:

Gutsy, frugal and reliable, with lots of rattles and squeaks

Faults:

Support bracket snapped off rear silencer. Irritating as the exhaust itself is in very good condition. Told this is a common fault.

Split CV gaiter (expected at this age/mileage).

Clutch just starting to intermittently slip under hard acceleration in 6th (109k, it's had a good innings).

Interior rattles. Lots of them.

General Comments:

In most respects we are delighted with the car. It's reliable, very frugal, goes like stink when you need it to, has a good level of specification (electric windows, mirrors, sunroof, Climatronic, CD player, PAS, ESP etc). Nothing much has gone wrong with it, and what has is within expectations for a car of this age and mileage.

Biggest gripe is the rattly interior. Driving over less than perfect roads sets up a cacophony of buzzes, creaks and squeaks. I think this is the rattliest car I have ever owned, and that includes old 80's Peugeots. Somewhat at odds with the expensive looking trim and so-called quality badge.

Handling is also dreadful, with the heavy diesel engine and soggy suspension (this is no "GTI diesel", or anything like it) making it frustrating on twisty roads. It understeers comically early, and there's not much steering feel. As my commute is 90% straight A-road and motorway, it doesn't bother me, but this is not a car to enjoy yourself in on a good road.

The PD diesel is rough and ready, and makes a racket compared to a newer design, but the clout it delivers between 1500 and 4000 RPM makes this car feel genuinely quick at times. Coming out of 30 mph limits, you just leave the car in fourth, and squeeze it on. It hauls you from 30 through to 80 in one satisfying, sustained lunge without the need to touch the gear lever. Similarly once in 6th, it cruises quietly, but with bags left in reserve. It's still a great engine, with a far better long term / high mileage reliability record than a typical common rail unit. Assuming it's fed the correct oil, this 130 PD engine is known for doing starship mileages without problems.

If the interior didn't rattle, it would be a superb car. As it is, it's still very good. But the creaks annoy me.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 13th September, 2010

2002 Volkswagen Golf GT TDI 150 1.9 turbo diesel

Summary:

Fast, comfortable, economical... dull

Faults:

CV boots and joints needed replacing several times.

Dampers gone after around 100K.

Some turbo + intercooler niggles - black smoke, easily fixed.

General Comments:

I recall my first test drive of the Golf, giving it the full bootful at 30 mph in 3rd gear and laughing out loud at the explosive acceleration. Moveover, after purchasing the car, I managed 58 mpg on my run home. Had I truly found the best of both worlds?

I got a Golf GT TDI 150 as my commute increased to 60 miles a day, albeit a very lovely drive over the North Yorkshire Moors. I wanted something which would be good on fuel, but enough of a hot hatch to keep me happy when I wanted to put my foot down. I didn't expect the GT TDI to be all that quick. My previous car was a Clio 182, and I can honestly say that the Golf felt as quick in-gear. A caveat to this is that 1st and 2nd aren't much use as even in the dry as the wheels will just spin under full power, so in 0-60 terms (totally irrelevant in the real world) the 150 loses out a bit. A much more telling indicator of performance on the road is the 30-70 time for a car, and the Golf weighs in at just under 7 seconds. This combined with huge thrust in every gear means effortless overtaking and a genuinely rapid car.

Of course all this is due to the torque of the diesel engine. The power figure of 150 bhp is slightly misleading. It's best to think of it as a by-product of the 235 lbft of shove on offer from just 1900 rpm. In reality, as long as the revs are over 2000 in any gear the car flies, the limiter stopping fun at 5000 rpm, though over 4000 the thrust dies off significantly so best to change up and get back in the power band.

So, the car can do fast. But it's the way that - when you are not giving it death - that the Golf becomes a nice place to collapse into at the end of the day and waft home that makes it doubley appealing. The interior is spacious and well laid out. The cabin ambiance at night is especially pleasant with the oh so cool adjustable blue back lighting for the dials. It very easy to drive in a relaxed manner with all that torque to waft you effortlessly along.

The seats are Recaros, and offer good bolstering and adjustability in every direction, though are a little too soft and squidgey for me. The stereo is also good, and there are enough goodies to at least keep you comfortable.

The car is particularly good on the motorway, with excellent sound-proofing, and reasonably good ride, although it must be said if I had intended to keep my car any longer I would have had new dampers installed. On a good run you can even manage in excess of 60 mpg.

So you say: the perfect car? Bit of a Jekyll and Hyde? Well... not really. It depends what you want from your car, for the non-petrolhead it has all the performance you could ever reasonably need, plenty of practicality, bags of refinement, and typical Germanic reliability. Not to mention the fact that a full tank (55 litres) will take you 600 miles unless you drive like a lunatic.

However... as a drivers car, the GT TDI 150 presents a very different story. Firstly, the car is fairly softly sprung, making cruising a bit nicer, but push on around a bend and the car will lean and wallow, even taking a few seconds after a turn to sort out its lateral loadings. This despite being lowered compared to a standard Mk 4. In order to get to this stage, however you will have had to first turn off the hideously clumsy traction control, which will be lighting up like a Christmas tree when pushing on as, despite the car offering a fair amount of grip, it simply cannot find the traction to deploy that massive torque loading through the front wheels. I think it's fair to say, this car does not like corners, and doesn't make going round them any fun at all.

This brings me onto another big problem - the steering. It is very light, brilliant for around town or the motorway, again, not so good if you want to enjoy the drive. It also manages to filter out any feel whatsoever at any speed, and for a car with the performance potential of the 150 that is very unnerving. In the steering's defence, it is pretty quick and accurate - but this needs to be combined with a sharp, pointy and direct front end, which the Golf totally lacks. You need to really stick the car into a bend with a confidence that it does not inspire to get it to react positively, and it can feel like a bit of a leap of faith at times given the numbness of the helm, even once highly familiar with how the car drives. The chassis really dosen't shine, a lift of the throttle mid-corner will tuck the nose in slightly, but sliding the back around is very much off the agenda. The Golf always feels a step behind you rather than right there and reacting to your inputs.

Once you figure in this lethargic and not very adjustable chassis with the poor body control, awful steering feel and lack of traction you have a car with massive potential drivability and speed, which you are never really happy or able to use. Of course, if you focus on the massive poke of the engine, the slick 6-speed box, grip, and fairly sorted ride to smooth the bumps, you can make very brisk, if dull, progress.

So, overall how do I feel about this car? As an everyday driver it is absolutely brilliant, ticking every box you could wish. I had a few running repairs to keep up with on mine, but it was 100% reliable and very satisfying to own.

As a drivers car? Well... I am a confirmed petrolhead and love driving, always have. With previous hot hatches I had owned I would get up at 4.30 in the morning for a blast on a favourite road, or take the long way home just for the fun of a B-road drive over a motorway slog. Did I do this with the Golf? No.

That just about sums it up.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 25th August, 2009

22nd Jan 2010, 03:17

I couldn't agree more with this review. I have the 130 bhp version of the same car, and the chassis definitely lets the side down. It struggles for traction given the slightest surface imperfections or hint of damp on the road, and the ASR light seems to be almost constantly on when driven with any degree of verve.

What it does do very well though is lope along motorways and fast A-roads, with bags of grunt in reserve, and return 55 mpg while doing so. The PD engine is rough and noisy by modern diesel standards, but the sheer clout and response of the thing is a match for any of the new common rail diesels. The 130 loses out on some of the muscle of the 150, but has a much broader spread of power. It's on boost, and instantly responsive from just 1500 RPM. I drove both, and opted for the 130, and a remap if I ever get bored with the power. I actually haven't, and if anything it would be the chassis I'd sort. Given the way it struggles with the standard engine, a remap would simply make things worse.

Like you, I also very much enjoy the interior look and feel, the gorgeous blue lighting and the expensive looking materials. Mine is very rattly nowadays though (95,000 miles) and over rough roads there's a cacophony of squeaks, creaks and rattles. I don't think the build quality of the Golf extends much beyond the bits you can see and touch. I also love the way they've managed to combine a crashy ride with soggy handling. I had a Focus as a company car which, dynamically, blew this into the weeds.

Overall though, it's a nice car if you don't think of it as a GTI. Quick, unbelievably frugal, long legged, reliable, and the best bit with mk4 Golf 130/150 diesels is that when you come to sell it, the phone will ring off the hook, and you'll get the asking price.

25th Jan 2010, 15:33

I'm glad you liked the review! Your final comment is insightful, as in the summer, I did indeed come to sell (constant niggling running repairs) and achieved my desired price virtually instantly. My choice of replacement was a Ford Mondeo ST Tdci. I have to say that this car is a far far better thing to drive, and is equally if not more comfortable, I'm even getting 48.6 mpg for the 7000 miles since I bought it. In terms of sheer poke though the Golf was much, much faster, and I still miss the serenity of overtaking in 6th gear...