1991 Volkswagen Polo Fox 1.1L

Summary:

Absolute joy with typical VW reliability

Faults:

Engine has got more rattly as the miles clock up. Have been told the tappets need replacing, but she still goes strong.

General Comments:

I got rid of a 2.0 litre Ford Mondeo for a VW Polo and never looked back. This car seemed to run better in the cold, and has never gone wrong.

The car has just passed another MOT, and the only problem is that the engine sounds like a bag of spanners and is getting louder.

This car certainly outruns its newer models, and is an absolute pleasure to drive.

NO power steering, traction control, or ABS; exactly how driving should be.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 18th December, 2009

1991 Volkswagen Polo CL Coupe Fox 1.0

Summary:

Amazing first car and great run-around

Faults:

Front shock absorbers needed replacing due to one leaking.

Clutch pedal became a bit sticky, but is fine now it has been oiled.

General Comments:

Great run-around.

Great visibility all around.

Well built body that can withstand punishment.

Interior design leaves a lot to be desired though nothing a few slip on seat covers won't fix.

Gigantic 4 litre windscreenwasher tank.

Engine can get very hot when going up steep hills on hot days.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 25th July, 2006

1991 Volkswagen Polo GT coupe 1.3

Summary:

Rare super mini

Faults:

Second clutch went at 130,000.

Original throttle switch went at 100,000.

Original alternator went at 134,000.

Original front wheel bearings starting to get noisy.

Interior trim all over car starting to rattle.

General Comments:

Very fun to drive, but can catch you out when you're not paying attention.

Factory brakes absolutely crap, due to master cylinder too small and front brake pipes expanding giving spongy feel. fitted a passat master cylinder and braided pipes to overcome this.

Cat knocked out being a 91 model, don't need it and can feel the difference in power.

Induction kit fitted and then removed due to fuel freezing!!!.Air box drilled and new panel filter fitted.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 26th November, 2003

26th Dec 2006, 18:02

Good on ya sham. Up Limerick!!!

1991 Volkswagen Polo GT Hatchback 1.3 petrol

Summary:

Excellent if you can find one!

Faults:

Nothing so far! Previous owner had new fuel tank fitted, which is an extremely common thing for this model of polo.

General Comments:

What a car! This is my third polo and Its by far the best. Picked it up for eight hundred and twenty five pounds in a garage in Leicester. Sixty four thousand miles, twelve months MOT and absolutely mint. Virtually no rust at all which wasn't the case with my last two polos. This is an extremely rare car, Volkswagen only produced it for thirteen months! I've been very lucky to find such a good one.

The specification of this car is excellent as well. Alloy wheels, tinted windows, steel sunroof, black sports interior, not to mention the performance: Plenty of poke in all gears. Being the GT model though, I would expect nothing less. It's good on petrol too.

It's lots of fun and handles well too. My only gripe is the brakes, which aren't quite good enough to match the performance, but some G40 disc's should sort that out.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 26th October, 2003

3rd Sep 2008, 13:42

Just thought id correct you in that the 1.3 gt was not rare, and was not produced for 13 months, it was 4years! sorry to be a bit of a smart Alec, but if you can't be accurate, the don't write.

1991 Volkswagen Polo GT 1.3

Summary:

Good for a bit of fun for a young person and fairly reliable

Faults:

The fuel tank developed a leak at about 60000 miles. Common problem I understand.

Clutch cable was replaced at 63000.

Starter motor at 65000.

Seat on drivers side is beginning to show age now, but nothing serious.

General Comments:

The car is "nippy". Not fast. Will hold its own against most non sports cars and leave cars in the same category for dead most times.

Handles OK. Not brilliant, but not bad.

Brakes could be better. Anyone who owns a polo from around that age will tell you that though, GT version or not.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? No

Review Date: 16th October, 2003

1991 Volkswagen Polo CL 1.05 petrol single-point injection

Summary:

Easy driver.. good for a cheap 2nd hander

Faults:

Rear brake system totally seized and rusted through, on the test drive even - but we thought it was because my dad manhandled the handbrake too hard so still bought the car. A £230 mistake!

(and even so, still weak as anything.. need to use 1st/reverse when parked on a steep hill, handbrake turns are definately not possible!)

Front discs have similarly also been less than confidence inspiring, warped and out of true, but can still stop it well enough... got through the MOT..

Standard ignition leads were useless, spark plugs kept missing beats even when seated and dried out best as possible. Went through 2 sets of plugs before thought to change the leads for a basic set of halfords replacements and no misfires since.

Clutch cable snapped without any warning at all, supposedly it should start to feel heavy beforehand.. nope. Luckily the 4-speed box is very easy to crash-change with a bit of speed matching.

Doesn't seem to like cold starts despite catching in a heartbeat when warm. Took 10 minutes and a sock in the intake to bring up to a rough idle first time there was ice this winter. (malfunctioning hot/cold air mechanism?)

Rust in really odd places, though most of the body is sound.

Oil breather pipe went to the big perished soft-rubber playground in the sky many moons previous. Replacing it - like many other things on this car - is simply too expensive to get done through the dealer, and far too tricky to get the parts and fit for a home repair, so it's been left as it's more an economy/environmental concern than engine welfare.

Tailgate lock is tricky to say the least, but thankfully only when locking (and most people these days assume auto-locks?).

Has a locking fuel cap, but can't for the life of me figure out how to work it, probably seized. Hard enough to get it to stay on at all.

Exhaust system has needed repair twice, only for minor things (and it's taken a lot of stick on these lumpy, speedbump-rife roads). Middle section clip totally went, meaning the rear pipe would only be supported by the silencer rubbers, sitting inside the front pipe.. and so fall out and drag on the ground every couple of miles, along with a "nice" 1960s formula-1 style sound effect.

Recently it's gone wrong the second time, after a couple of particularly harrowing high speed meetings with speedbumps the rusty weld between the rear pipe and silencer has totally perished and so the noise has returned, though more tolerable, like a very rattly V8, so long as I stay below 45mph. Trying to repair it without having to go and blow £60-odd at the garage, but it's not working very well :/

The drivers seat needs replacement to be fair, though it's still plenty comfortable. The fabric is worn, and it doesn't seem particularly well attached to the chassis anymore, a bit wobbly, it's pretty tricky to work the backrest adjuster, and the wire connecting the tilt-release clips to the handle has snapped (with no easy way of replacing it in sight) - so barring various contortions reaching around both sides of the seat, back seat passengers all have to get out of the passenger door.

Lets see... what else... the tailgate seals aren't too good, so the boot area beneath the mat tend to get damp, and the spare wheel area collects a centimetre or so of dirty water.. The gearbox seems a bit worn, either the synchromesh is naturally stodgy or has had a lot of abuse (still works well enough, except for very occasional 2nd/4th crunch).. and it's a complete pain in the whatevers to properly get the difference between 1st and Reverse, even with the reverse lockout, in the first thousand miles or so!

Finally the turn signal circuitry is a little corroded or something - have to be very -gentle- when signalling left, it doesn't turn on if you click it on with a normal pace.

General Comments:

Though certainly not the first driven, the Polo's my first owned car.. considering some of the dogs I could have had, it's very good, but still some complaints!

An explanation for it all, I think it may have taken a dip at some point. Algae all down one side and some bits have got surprising rust damage for a Polo.. but, the bodyframe is still sound.

Very comfortable interior (nice soft back bench and driver's seat is arguably the best I've used) and, though dark (REALLY needs a sunroof), nicely designed. Good looking fabric, (fake?) leather side trims on the seats, and very ergonomic layout of all the controls, even down to the radio.. which would have to be a jet fighter's headup display to be any better located. Lots of cubbyholes too, for a turn-of-the-90s car anyway. Cupholders in the glovebox even! Only thing that spoils this smart design is the lack of a fuel gauge warning light, so far I've run out twice (as an empty tank still shows a slight movement of the needle) and now carry a spare gallon in the boot.

LOTS of space. It doesn't look immediately spacious from most angles, and with four large guys inside it suddenly feels a big claustrophobic and low to the ground, though not quite cramped. Unlike some shorter wheelbase, but "large"-wheeled machine, eg fiat panda, the arches don't intrude uncomfortably into the passenger cabin. Plus, drop the rear seats, take out the parcel shelf, and you can get all the earthly possessions of an average student inside (including a dismantled bike), with a bit of ingenuity. Just leave out the large furniture... and strap 100kg of it to an easily fitted roofrack.

This carrying capacity is both the cause of and a slight consolation for the less than stylish looks, but that's no matter for me. It looks OK to me - I like to think of it as a boil-washed Passat estate, the front certainly has the resemblance. The estate-like shape can be a bit jarring, but does the trick. If only they'd thought to divide the rear windows like on the Golf so that the back seat passengers could control their own ventilation (they don't open. at all.), but, the full length ones make for -great- visibility. When they're not horrendously misted!

Unfortunately when fully loaded up and with a roofrack you can forget about fast progress, you'll get about 70mph tops, reach 60 in approx 1 minute, and people in 2CVs and DAF vans will be overtaking and giving you rude gestures. The 1043cc engine (45hp / 55lbft over a surprisingly wide and low range) looks TINY in the engine bay (you can easily stand -inside- the bonnet) and often feels mousepower rather than horse, even though it looks to have gained a good 10% after bedding in compared to official figures.

The 70s vintage 4-speed doesn't help too much. It covers the twin demands of being able to grab gaps in city traffic without changing gear, and getting maximum power matched close to max speed, but at the same time these are bad ideas. It can take a fair bit of coaxing to 25mph on uphill starts because of the high 1st, and dashing on the motorway can be noisy as you hit 5000rpm at about 90mph. 3rd gear hits the limiter at 81mph, however the way the power curve goes it's quicker to change around 65-70... so anything beyond the legal limit is all in top gear and therefore "extra". You don't so much accelerate to such speeds, as mash the pedal into the carpet and wait. Or, some days, pray.

So.. it's officially "slow", though I prefer to quote it as being "enough, but no more". All in all it actually appears to be similar to a lower-spec Transit or other van. It's brilliant at relaxed cruising, if you accelerate gently, keep out of the way, and below 65mph in top it's smooth and almost silent, but for road noise. Higher speeds and more competitive driving, such as punching it down the m-way to get places on time through moderate traffic, require a lot more 'work' - just like driving a van for business. You can still be the fastest thing on the road, on aggregate, just about, but be prepared to turn the stereo right up (it gets LOUD - half the power above 4000rpm must go to noise) and languish in the middle lane from time to time building up a head of steam. Still, it can be an entertaining drive, particularly on back roads, if you lower your standards a bit - and drive it like a techno-sadist nutter.

It's the ability of this car to take such punishment that's so impressive. If the Fiat Punto I used to borrow was driven in the same manner I do the Polo, with the same regularity, it would be in pieces within weeks and 1500 miles tops (doing it just once smoked the brakes, damaged the clutch and caused the engine to pop and miss). The Volkswagen however just -takes it- like it was the most natural thing in the world. Incredible bit of over-engineering. You can run for 200 miles down the motorway in 3rd & 4th, or across country through 2nd-3rd and occasionally 4th, with the throttles locked wide open apart from braking, and quickchanging, and it won't complain... well... not yet it hasn't... after 8000 miles of such treatment without even an oil change yet ("next week, I promise"). And that's just the drivetrain and brakes (weak, but resilient), the rest of the frame and other parts are just as hardwearing.

What does suffer from such treatment is the economy, though it never becomes chronic. If you can keep a lid on it, or are having a relaxed day, a 60-65 cruise journey can turn in a very good 50-55mpg economy (possibly reaching 60 with a constant 50-55?). However the usual state of affairs any time I've checked it though has been around 35mpg with a mix of treatment, with the occasional run of 40, which for a 1-litre isn't so good. However on the full-on motorway runs the consumption doesn't seem to dip below 30mpg with only moderate loading, which is good :)

Handling isn't the best in the world, eg not as sticky and sharp as a Punto, but it does the trick. Very "safe" understeer type setup and somewhat soft suspension; however the engine doesn't seem to have enough juice to be able to push the car beyond what can be dealt with, and you can happily fling it down twisting, bouncy country roads as fast as you feel safe, or chirp the tyres around roundabouts on full lock (understeering like crazy - but predicatably) with a fair bit of confidence. The only time it feels a bit unsettled or near the limit is flying through some twisting motorway/dual carriageway downhills at 90+...

Helping this is the steering, which is almost uniformly light, despite being a totally unassisted bog-standard rack and pinion with all the weight of the engine between the wheels. Perhaps it's low displacement helps.. rarely a parking problem, and once you're moving in 2nd gear a single palm is sufficient to steer much like you had a forklift knob fitted.

Brakes. Less said the better. They have servo assistance at least, which is a blessing, but the rear setup is either rubbish - bearing in mind it was effectively brand new a couple miles after the car was bought - or mine is chronically out of adjustment. Little wonder the front pads and even the discs have worn so fast. Handbrake has trouble keeping it in place on steep slopes. It may be a problem of the tyres though, or even it's lack of weight, as it's possible to lock up accidentally when pegging the pedal in a non-emergency situation.. Definately a car that teaches you to brake early, leave distance, and gear down if needed.

What else can be said.. maintainance is a total pig. Simple things like changing a tyre, checking and topping up the fluids are no bother at all. Anything more complex than that usually requires taking the day off. Even removing the air filter and intake can be longwinded and painful if you don't have gloves - and this (and consequent total removal of the air intake manifold) is usually the first step in any topside procedures.. including the otherwise simple process of changing spark plugs! (The oil breather had better not prove to be essential, as the complexity and expense of sorting it out has prevented me getting it fixed since it was picked up at the last MOT/Service - 8 months and 8000 miles ago). Getting it jacked up is horrendously difficult as well. If you're aiming to put it up on a pair of axle stands, you may find that it keeps toppling off of one stand while you try to raise the other side, because of the tiny and oddly shaped jack points, whilst you simultaneously bend the underbody seams into odd and easily rusting shapes by having to jack it in a different place to where the stand will go. Oddest of all, replacing the clutch cable looked to be really complex - but turned out to be insanely simple.

The only good thing in this regard is that VW have gone to the thoughtful length of providing a -full size- spare wheel instead of one of those pitiful max-50mph excuses for a replacement. Which also means a usable jack and some kind of tyre iron can be stowed in the same place.

Safety and security features are pretty much non existant. Protecting you from death and injury are, in order: Seat belts. Safety glass.. probably. And the inherent strength of the body frame, which is probably quite considerable (most panels and pieces appear a lot thicker than on rivals) but doesn't seem to be reinforced at all e.g. by side impact bars or well designed crumple zones.

Protecting the car from people who think it's or the contents belong to them and they've lost the key are.. Glass. Metal. And simple, fairly screwdriverable locks. Plus in my personal case, the 10-year vintage stoplock (half the paint missing) and a semi-deactivated Moss alarm. The little LED on the dash still works, if I connect a battery to it. The alarm itself is still present, but long broken. If you're concerned about safety and security on a stock Mk3 Polo, either buy something different, or budget for buying some large soft pillows to tie to the bumper and fill the cabin, and a large length of chain, much clingfilm (to make the windows unbreakable and the doors unopenable) and a really big padlock.

Lights are pretty good. No 3rd brake light or wraparound style rear clusters as seen these days, but rear lamps are large and bright (only one reverser and one fog though). Headlamps are excellent, I've heard people complain about VW heads before; they can't have driven Fiats, Citroens or Renaults before then :) No troubles about the strength of either dips or full beams, though I occasionally take advantage of a little trick with the wiring and lock the two on together. Driving lamps would be nice but totally unneccessary. What I have added though are cheap aftermarket fog lamps as the dipped lights are horrible in fog. It appears small ones like Microlines go well in the inner air inlets of the bumper - of course, they turned out to be very difficult to fit! (more fool me, I decided to be law abiding and only set them to come on with the dipped headlamps.. and so they're not very much use other than for appearance until I can figure out what connection to short.

A last set of niggles.. it steams up far too easily. The screens can be cleared without much bother, and the front windows can be wound down (in winter..!) but the rear windows, front quarterlights, and all three mirrors suddenly go from being clear or reflective to totally opaque for upto 30 minutes from setting off. The mirrors themselves are a bit hard to adjust, and the steering wheel can't be adjusted at all ;) The rear seat only folding rather than splitting is a bit of a pain. And the VW-supplied stereo and speakers, if you're "lucky" enough to find one with one, are simply rubbish. Budget for getting a replacement head unit at least, and if you can afford it a cheap set of new speakers (to go in the rear - the fronts are an odd size that cost at least £60 to replace) with some bass-cut capacitors for the fronts. Installation can be easily DIY'd unless you're really bad with electronics, thanks to the high up position and simple construction of the dash, the only problem may be easily finding ways to invisibly route the wires to the rear shelves.

Oh. And the insurance is just a little high. Nothing dreadful, but something like this really should be in group 2 or 3 rather than 4, for a good £50-100 saving on the policy of many who'll be driving them. (Personal - 21yo male, suburban NW wales address in a low crime town, clean record and 3 years onroad - £550 3rdparty fire & theft. not bad.. but almost the purchase price again)

In summary... it's not an easy fix, but it's a very easy drive. Maybe not always rapid to pull from a standstill, but goes well enough after that, keeping up with traffic 98% of the time. Easy gearshifting (for all it's wear and other faults, the actual gear action feels *absolutely perfect*), easy braking, easy steering, comfortable seat and driving position, soft, but not stodgy suspension, good visibility and mirrors, easy operation of all other controls... etc... it's rarely much effort except when you need to get the damn thing moving at high speed :)

In fact, with a few tweaks and polishes to iron out all the tiny little troubles, a doubling of power (the latest 1.4 VW engine should easily suffice!), a sunroof and/or AC, better safety, security and a decent 5-speed or automatic gearbox, and either easier fixing or a dealer repair plan this could be pretty much the ideal hassle-free small car. :D Hmm, I wonder what the modern Polos are like in that respect, they haven't bloated anything like the Golfs.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 15th April, 2003

8th Jan 2005, 12:39

Coming back to this a year on I don't like the first review any more and forgot I did the 70k mile one! have marked it as rating "1 - poor" but somehow that's improved its score and moved it upwards?!?!

Have written a completely novel 81,000 mile review to replace both of these, lets see how the Car Survey folks deal with that little conundrum.

What I will say is that over the past 2 and a half years, I've had a few annoying persistent problems that have affected full enjoyment of the car (BUT not immobilised it), but the last couple months they've been fixed and I've realised it for what it is - a very dependable A-to-B workhorse that is worth every bit of hassle over the odds and sods. It may instead have been a rover 200 that's forever in and out of the garage with a mangled gearbox, blown pistons, etc... but its not. It's the most solid 14 year old motor you could hope to find and is still an enjoyable way to get from A, to B.

Just not all that quickly. :D.

9th May 2007, 13:50

Hmm, my 1.0 Polo (1991) does nigh on 110, and I've timed 0-60 in 14.5 seconds with two people in the car. Standard apart from the rear seats and spare wheel removed (got a can of tyre weld :D)