1987 SAAB 9000 Turbo 2.0 turbo

Summary:

Great car on paper - and occasionally lives up to its specs

Faults:

The Swedish temptress invites you to spend more on her because she can give so much. But does it ever end?

Admittedly, so long as the timing chain is kept in check, the engine is near bullet proof. You can get half a million kilometres on it without much sweat. For me, this included the turbo, but others have had different experiences.

The tranny, is a different story. The clutch is an expensive fix. The synchros on 2nd gear bit the dust a while ago, and 1st, 3rd and reverse were following suit.

No problems with the suspension.

After 15 years, rust was becoming an issue (I live in Sydney, Australia). Affected areas included the sunroof, inside bits of the doors and 'the aquarium' a region in front of the windscreen in the engine bay (affectionately known as such because, by design, this area fills with water... don't ask!).

Front wheel bearings generally go every 100K kms.

Electrics - too much of it for my liking - looks like Saab where trying to differentiate this model from the cheaper 900 by loading it up with gimmicky crap. It includes the most annoying AC system I've known. It turns on by design when you switch on the ignition. If you're air con works, this isn't much of an issue, but still, the compressor affects fuel economy.

The headlight high beam relay is a nuisance - this (expensive) thing (s) die after every 5-10 years or so due to a design fault which relies on the mechanical strength of a bit of solder.

If you have approximately 2-8 grand to spare on top of purchase price, pick up an OK one and you'll have yourself a fantastic machine that won't cost you another cent for a good few years! Few of us in the market for a 5 grand car do, and hence, the very low resale value of a car that once retailed for >$65,000.

General Comments:

5 door hatchback, with greater (useful) carrying capacity than many large 4WDs. In manual turbo form, the 2.0L engine delivers all the power you require on the open road and with fuel economy that still compares with many similar cars that are 15 years younger. Ride and handling is what you would expect from a leading Euro manufacturer (not the finest, but not bad at all either). All this in a neat well-made package.

In Australia, however, ownership of a Saab is an expensive and love-hate experience. And only those in the know respect the car for what it is.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Don't Know

Review Date: 13th March, 2006

26th Apr 2006, 16:22

Some of your problems might be related to the age of the car and the way previous owners have treated it.

Do you seriously expect showroom performance and absolute reliability from a 16 year old car?

13th Dec 2010, 17:41

Well, yes the Saab Aero has complexities like all cars that have swung over to the computer, in the perhaps erroneous belief there are unassailable benefits in fuel injection, and at what massive service costs over a carburetted car would be utterly staggering. The Op-Amp has almost limitless possibilities, and can be applied through a computer for interaction among "sensored" components. The impossibility of exhaustively testing the systems is a curse, as the purchaser then becomes the ultimate test driver.

As for the air conditioning... a very wise move to bring a car quickly to your chosen temperature. If you don't want it, you reach out with the nearside arm and press the button labeled "OFF". Yes, the compressor uses fuel, but so does your completely unnecessary sonic boom sound system at ear shattering levels. So does adjusting the seat or using the headlights, or if you are truly emotionally self destructive, lighting a cigarette using the lighter. The compressor is not operating after the "OFF" button has been pressed.

The worst cars I found as a teenager in Sydney were beachside... eastern suburbs particularly, where expensive cars were bought on credit and left parked in streets, suffering sun and leaf damage, scratches, and often abandonment. Yes, the cars will rust, but I am at Arundel, where cars and anything rusts... but my Saab seems to have survived, and my Alfa 75TS about to go on sale... Japanese cars don't. Vans don't. The worst are cars repaired after major accidents, which were never returned to factory standards... excluding the old "been on the English roads" private imports, which are cancerous from salt.

Yes, the 9000 Aero transmission, though an improvement over the standard one in a few respects, does crack up... the 900 Aeros are the pits in my view. There is no excuse for SaaB producing lightweight gearboxes, and they knew the auto wouldn't cop it well, however this gets back to usage... screaming it through low gears, dropping clutches and so on does not meet the idea. One dropout once replied to me "cars are intended to be used".. yes, but by what and how?

If someone can help me track down some 9000 Aero rims, please call me on 0405 400 515.

1987 SAAB 9000 Turbo 2.0 16v turbo

Summary:

A fast highway armchair on wheels

Faults:

Auto Gearbox rebuilt twice (once at 120,000kms & 200,000 kms)

Fuel Pump (around 150,000km)

Air Mass Sensor (150,000kms)

Turbo & Head overhaul (around 180,000kms)

Steering Box (around 150,000kms)

High Beam Switch

Sun roof sticking

Leather on drivers seat worn

Creaking boot hatch

Worn door rubbers

Leaked power steering fluid reservoir (around 240,000kms)

General Comments:

A fair few (expensive) things have gone wrong with this car, however I love it dearly for the comfort, performance and sheer load carrying (especially with seats folded flat).

And to answer your questions, my service book has not missed a stamp.

Some reliability issues can be owed to driving style (had car since I was 18, upped the boost/re-chipped the computer and added a Remus cat-back exhaust, 2 inches lowered Ebach springs all round, 16 inch rims on Z-rated rubber, dark black window tint, gray duco/gray bumper model, looks awesome!).

The automatic gearboxes, fuel pumps and air mass sensors are notorious with these cars. If you are seriously considering buying an auto model, see if you can get under the car and open up the auto box - look for metal fragments in the oil. Also look for car which won't slip easily into 'D' from 'P' or kick down properly. Also stand behind the car when the car is being started to see if there is a telltale puff of black smoke (not fatal though).

OK, so that's the bad bits - good bits:

- Driven from Adelaide to Canberra (1,600kms each way) in one go with no problems. Done this many times and back with no troubles, passes massive trucks with ease, masses of mid-top range power (you really know it when it kicks down). I also owned a modified 1998 Subaru WRX, which eats the SAAB to 100km/hr, but over 100km/hr the SAAB reels the Subaru in and blows it away over 150km/hr.

- Has the best handling top end speed. Will easily sit on 180km/hr for hours and make you feel like your are doing 60km/hr. Top speed I have had this car is 225km/hr on a very straight patch of road (stupid I know). Sat there without a twitch! (remember - there are areas in Australia such as the Northern Territory which do not have a speed restriction - just need to look out for the kangaroos!)

- Handles corners great, especially with aftermarket springs (next best thing handling wise to my 4wd Subaru WRX)

- Seats are the most comfortable I have sat in - supportive, deep. More comfortable than my dad's C220 Merc.

- Basically a great car if you look after it.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 10th April, 2004

31st Jan 2007, 05:36

This is the original writer. Car has now passed the 400,000km (250,000 miles) mark with no further problems other than routine maintenance. However you look at it, this is a fantastic run for a 4-cylinder turbo engine pulling what is a relatively large amount of car!

1987 SAAB 9000 Turbo 2.0 turbo

Summary:

A great car

Faults:

Front wheel bearing.

Trip computer display (easy fix - replace light bulbs).

High beam switch (easy fix - remove and clean contacts).

Windscreen washer switch (easy fix - clean contacts).

Sun roof leaking (easy fix - blow out drain holes with air compressor).

Synchros on 2nd gear is very poor. Problem is on upshift. Will need to fix.

Air conditioning does not work. Unsure of fault.

Rear brakes rattle like maracas.

Hydraulic lifters are starting to make more noise than rear brakes!

General Comments:

Very nice car, always wanted to own one. Is it the largest luxury manual hatchback there is? At 227kph, it was apparently one of the fastest production cars in the world in 1986.

With hatchback and folding rear seat, it is very practical. And comfortable.

Smooth turbo power delivery, great for open road driving. Handles well on winding roads.

Lots of accelerative power yet can be very economical when driven easily.

Bloody awful turning circle.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 3rd February, 2004

1987 SAAB 9000 GLE 2.0

Summary:

Next time I tool around with Saabs, I'll buy a 9000 Turbo with a manual transmission

Faults:

Auto transmission failed.

O2 sensor failed.

Starter motor failing.

Engine mounts soft.

Rear disc brake warped.

General Comments:

The good:

Very comfortable.

Styling oozes of class, and is a refreshing change from the cliched BMW or Mercedes look.

Has a major feeling of safety to it.

Will not rust (at least, not in Australia).

Excellent handling.

The engine itself is smooth and reliable.

The bad:

Drinks like an Engineering Student.

Irritating little things kept breaking on it (O2 sensor, starter motor etc).

Irritating big things kept on breaking on it (transmission etc).

Quite expensive to keep running.

Is quite a heavy car, and really needs a turbo to make it fun.

The ugly:

People have mistaken it for a Renault.

Saabs are very, very addictive.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 20th December, 2001