1988 Renault 21 GTS 1.7

Summary:

Satisfied

Faults:

I just bought it and it seems to be somewhat trouble-free, although there's almost 200 000 km in the meter. Really comfortable and gives generally a safe feeling. Little rusty around the back doors, though.

General Comments:

It says in the manual that the front axle belt should be changed every 100 000 km's. Any comments on that? Have you had problems with it? Does anyone have an estimate how much this car consumes gasoline? Good seats, lots of space, silent, but strong engine.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 2nd October, 2003

2nd Oct 2003, 07:56

A year ago I sold my 1991 Renault 21 2.0 TXi with 225,000 on the clock. A fantastic, powerful and roomy car, but very faulty. I switched it for the Laguna Estate 1.8 and Renault gave me €4,400 for it, but maintenance and service cost me € 5,200 during the 4 years it had it. Average petrol consumption was 11 lt/100 km (in the city and in the motorway going 160-180 km/h). At 100 km/h in the motorway it consumed 7 lt/100 h, but this was a different engine that yours.

Nick / Athens, Greece.

3rd Oct 2003, 03:15

Axle belts have to be changed on all cars that use them (some use axle chains that are almost undestructible, but are noisier. Belts are changed between 60000 km and 160000 km according to the manufacturer and the engine. At 200000 km your belt was probably changed once. I will recommend immediate change (I do not know the Finnish prices, but in France such an operation would cost 300-400 €). Good luck.

1989 Renault 21 GTX 2.0i

Summary:

Most car for the budget - Great comfort, good reliability

Faults:

Nothing beyond perfectly normal wear to be expected during 7 times around the world travel!

- Replaced or renewed water pump, generator, starter, battery, windscreen, radiator, lower balljoints, absorbers, exhaust tube.

- Gasoline first transfer pump power lead fixed once.

- Cylinder head & valve job at 270K km. Was not necessary but I intended to keep the car for long.

* Never left me on the road *

- Stopped once at -15C at a service station, when unrepaired radiator leak eventually opened fully - my own fault.

(Leaking radiator especially in winter is a BAD idea!)

- Once refused to start at -20C because of probable Renix malfunction. Usually no problems to start in any winter condition down to -32C. Car was outside 8 years summer and winter.

- In general Renix injection system worked well. Some comfort problems with even speed and light pedal, but can be cured by slightly adjusting the trimmer inside the control unit - keeping within pollution standards of course. If Renix shows warning light anomalies they may indicate eg. blown temp sensor.

All repairs were done by a private specialist buddy who knows R's in and out (Brand garages can only charge yet workmanship stinks at times).

General Comments:

Got it as a company car at 55K km, later bought it. Kept it 8 years, then gave to my father, now happily driving it towards 400K km. (Old man had 5 R4s in his time so he's all grins now!)

By my limited experience (11 cars owned), R21 is easily the best car I've ever owned, especially for my below-average budget. Wins hands down when comfort points are added. Spacious family car with enough performance. A joy to drive. Reasonably, few can ask for more reliability than I got with it.

As a comment, R21 can be made to last 500K easily I believe, given attention to:

1) R21 engine head and gasket. It has a small design flaw (oil channels on the "outside"=wrong side at the back end of cylinder head). Do engine top and valves once and you're OK.

2) Annual care of brakes when driving in Scandinavian/winter conditions. All vehicles need special attention here, French, Italian, Spanish maybe a little more.

3) Sensible rust prevention measures, especially winter countries. Late 1980's Renaults are far better than their reputation in this sense, but need reasonable attention.

4) Normal maintenance, eg. all external subsystems that revolve every 100K to 250K km, as is necessary - like in any vehicle.

Level of "special R21 care" is still very reasonable for what you get in return! If R21 does not get its proper attention, at old age and mileage it becomes flawed with several problems that are partially reasons for "bad press".. - This is the difference of a French beauty to MB or other solid German "tanks" who go despite lack of service - but then, there is no joy as in Renaults !

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 6th July, 2000

1988 Renault 21 GTX 2.0 petrol injection

Summary:

Ultimate reliability & lots of space for a cheap price

Faults:

In addition to normal maintenance, only the fuel pump, water pump and one rear brake caliper had to be replaced.

However, not even once did the car break down on the road.

General Comments:

The R21 was reliable, economical, reasonably powerful and spacious. Especially the motor together with the Renix injection system was a dream: It worked like new, even after 370000 kms.

But the chassis began to rust and that's why I got rid of the car. There were already a couple of small rustholes underneath the car when I sold it.

Additionally, the local dealer in the Helsinki area does not know anything about Renaults, the focus is only on Volvos: Their explanation to everything was always 'well, it's a French car, what can you expect'. And their pricing of Renault spare parts was intolerable. Therefore I will probably never again buy a Renault (nor a Volvo), which is a shame because both Renault and Volvo are for me desirable car makes.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Don't Know

Review Date: 17th March, 2000

26th Dec 2003, 15:08

It is a pity that here in Finland Renaults maintenance is so expensive. This is what everybody tells me.

I am planning to buy my first car, and I find Your website very useful.

My dream is an new Renault Megane. Ooh. But unfortunately my student budget says: no! I can afford to Nissan or Toyota from early 1990's.

So should I listen recommendations; Should I buy inexpensive Nissan Sunny or listen to my heart?

P.s. 21 is my lucky number. :)

1989 Renault 21 Nevada GTX 2.0 petrol

Faults:

I lost one hubcap, they took 531 Finnish marks for new one..Try to figure that!

Air-conditioning works sometimes, but it's not Renault's own piece.

General Comments:

A powerful station wagon with great comfort, also eats GSi Opels for breakfast.

Quite warm, even in Finnish climate. Corners better than Volvo 245 Turbo estate, my previous car.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 17th January, 1999