2005 Seat Ibiza FR 20V T

Summary:

Crazy little turbo hatch

Faults:

Few rattles in the cabin (including the drivers seat at times).

General Comments:

Lovely car to drive, has superb handling!

Turbo whistle very addictive. Very responsive with barely any turbo lag.

Twin exhaust gives a lovely deep burble when your waiting at traffic lights.

Plant your foot down and it feels like its going into warp speed!. This car puts a smile on my face on the way to work (even on a Monday morning!)

Extremely comfortable, seats have about the right amount of support. Seats also look v sporty.

Build quality not bad (can see some room for improvement in parts).

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 25th November, 2006

2005 Seat Ibiza TDi FR 1.9 TDi

Summary:

Grunty, firm riding fun

Faults:

Initial Issues:

Misting Up Headlights.

General Comments:

Given the low mileage so far this is more of an 'initial impression' than a full review, but I thought it might be useful and I'll add to it as the miles rack up (if that's possible!)

If you're considering the 130bhp diesel you'll probably know by now that the car is quite brisk. ;) The only downside is that the initial rush of grunt is not maintained for that long, but the engine makes the car rapid and very laid back, with more subtle suspension it would be an ideal olde school GT.

The suspension is *very* firm and to be honest a bit over the top on a road car, try before you buy!

Folk say the engine is noisy, but generally it is a lot quieter than my old tech ZX TD. That said cold starts are a little noisy and pulling away shows up still more of the diesel clatter. Above walking pace though the engine is pretty near silent with only a gentle 'chatter' as you ease on the power. Tyre roar is very noticeable at even quire low speeds and increases with speed - make sure your test drive includes a bit of dual carriageway!

The full on climate control seems overly complicated, either warming you or chilling the air, you can't seem to get just 'outside' air.

The fuel computer needs checking too. Optimistically suggesting that mpg figures of 65+ are being achieved where calculations reckons about 52 which is confusing, but still good on a tight engine with this much torque.

A final initial (?) thought, ignore the myth of VAG build quality, they have as many problems as anybody else these days, just have a nose through the Polo reviews...

Overall I'm more than happy getting a pre-reg 130 FR TDi (pre-2006 facelift) for £10750.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Don't Know

Review Date: 10th October, 2006

15th Nov 2006, 12:05

I recently purchased a face-lifted 1.9 TDi FR (5 door) and can agree with all the comments made:

- The suspension is *very* firm,

- some tarmac surfaces give rise to a lot of tyre roar,

- headlights like to mist up slightly,

- I also got about 52 mpg average (over 1200 miles), when trip computer always says 60+, sometimes 70+ mpg.

- Build quality seemed fine, but after driving over some rough road there is a noticeable creak in the dash.

I intend to keep the car for some time, hopefully it will prove reliable - but I might have to do something about the harsh ride!

2005 Seat Ibiza Cupra PD160 tdi

Summary:

The unknown hot hatch

Faults:

The only minor fault I've had is condensation inside one of the front headlights. This is a known manufacturers fault, and is very common. It only happened for a short period during the winter, and has now completely dried out.

General Comments:

The car is seriously underrated as a performance car. It's supposed to have 160bhp, but every report I've seen of rolling-road tests show at least 180bhp. This equates to the petrol Cupra equivalent.

It's biggest trump card is the enormous low to mid-range torque (330Nm) which gives tremendous overtaking ability.

Furthermore there are countless tuning companies offering ECU chips or upgrades to dramatically increase power even more.

The braking ability is amazing, having huge front discs with 4-pot calipers, usually found only on motor sport cars.

On the downside, cabin interior is very dark and looks like a basic model (apart from the leather steering wheel and red stitching).

The other annoyance for true sports car fans is of course the diesel rattle when stationary.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 23rd June, 2005

3rd Jan 2006, 05:29

It's a diesel, slow pace.

4th Jan 2006, 15:21

And slow dealers.

11th Feb 2006, 13:37

Yeah, a diesel with more power and torque than most boy-racer mobiles. With a 0-60 time of 7.6 seconds (as quoted by most official reviews) I would buy one if I could afford one, but for now I'll have to live with my 309 GLD, a diesel from the slow era!