1987 BMW 3 Series 325 Base from North America - Comments

6th Oct 2003, 23:01

"An Image/Performance discount auto"

What things have gone wrong with the car?

Dealer failed to install the clutch master cylinder correctly and it spilled break fluid all over the drivers side floor. A friend and I fixed it in a couple hours.

The rubber boot just after the air filter was damaged by age causing the car to sputter and stall. Fixed for about $50 US dollars.

The shifter boot is torn.

Car needs new shocks after nearly 130K. Can't complain.

General comments?

The car really was a good deal. I got it in August 2002 for $2700 from the 2nd owner who really took good care of it. It looks very good in and out for a 16 year old car. I nearly got an 86 528e before this however it was more than book value and it turned out to be an 85 not an 86. That was a very nice car and if this one died I would have few reservations about buying one however with Automatic it is not nearly as quick as my 325 Manual.

The car is stock save the stereo I put in.

The car runs very well and very fast. Had it up to 110 MPH on a back road before running out of road. This is with the AC off and on! 121 bhp is not great, but 170 ft-lbs of torque moves the car faster then many other cars that are much newer. This is is the 'eta' six.

My neighbor has one of those 'Fast & Furious' wannabe Dodge Neons with all the cheap Wal-Mart stickers, lights, sub-woofers and muffler that make the car sound like it needs one. One day I was behind him turning onto the highway. He was revving the snot out of his car, my car wasn't even breaking a sweat and still gaining on him. Its nice to have a car that is fast, but still very refined.

The handling is tight, but at 129K it really could use new Shocks. The Wheels at 14in could be bigger. I had an 86 Volvo 244 GL with wheels from an 81 GLT and even those are 15in wheels. However it can still take those 10 MPH curves at 40. Some people may find the ride a bit stiff, but if that is the case then they should be driving some American boat not an E30 Bimmer.

Wet weather driving can be tricky, but with a good set of snow tires and the standard ABS snow driving isn't that bad.

Fuel economy is not great at 20 mpg in mostly city driving, but its not bad ether. I use 93 octane and find it gets about 4-5 mpg better then 87. Runs better too. However at $1.90 I may try going back to 89 or 87 and see what happens.

I have not done the head-bolts yet, but I really should. The head-bolds on the M20 motor from 84-89 can snap and wreck the engine. They need to be replaced with the newer Torx bolts. They may already be replaced, but it still is something worth looking into.

Over all it is a very good car and I am happy with it. Sometimes I wish I had something newer, but no other car can really match an E30 for performance, reliability, cost and image for less than $3000 except maybe a 190E Mercedes-Benz. So until I get $15k or more to spend on a car this is it.


15th May 2004, 03:18

You are so right!! I recently bought an '87 325i M-tech european spec (i live in The Netherlands) and it still turns heads!! So it really offers a lot of value for the money! I've even made many other Bimmer owners with E-36 ers look small!


15th Jan 2005, 03:02

M-Tech? Wow! I wish we had that here! Just an update I have since put 10K more miles on it and have a few things to report. At about 131K the rubber bushings on the passenger side went causing the steering-wheel to jerk when applying the brakes and the car to change direction at speed, this ran nearly $400! The parts cost about $60... very annoying. About a month before this the muffler fell off costing about $300. It was half my fault as I drove over a sink hole. I did the shocks for $900 dollars. The rear shocks (done at 133K) ran about $300 parts and labor however the front struts (done at 137K) needed not only the strut insert, but the strut towers also, $600. About a month after I had this done one of the struts came loose. I took it back in and the shop agreed to pay half the cost ($100). And last I hit a deer in November. The body shop said it would cost $1200 to fix however a good friend of mine used to do this kind of work and says we can get it looking OK again. So lets go over the total cost of this car. Car it self $3100 with tax, and $2200 for repairs in the last year for a total of $5300. And there is now an issue with the idle 'hunting' when cold from about 800-1100 rpm, the door latches like to freeze 'open' not the locks the latches! Again very VERY annoying! And the clutch is just now beginning to slip at 139,650 miles. I really cannot tell how much longer it will last, but the parts cost about $250 and to be honest I have no idea what the labor will cost. Now don't get me wrong on a warm summers day after I've detailed it with the windows down, sunroof open flying down the highway or some back roads with the Infinity stereo blasting the car simply rocks! After all the new parts I've put in it drives better then ever. If you can deal with the repairs of an old car, high labor costs and a sometimes two week wait for parts then it's a great car I just think you guys should know what your getting into with this or any older import performance car.


31st Jul 2006, 00:14

As I have put a deposit down on a new car (1995 Subaru Legacy LSi Wagon), I feel I should write a closing review.

OK, I got the car exactly four years ago with 123,xxx miles on it and now have 159,500. Over the course of those 36,000 miles I have put just over $5,000 into it in replacement parts. Parts have included ball-joints, tie-rods, shocks & struts, timing-belt, brake-master, two new mufflers and a cat, O2 sensor, and much more that I can't remember off hand. I do not know if this is typical or not, and I fully understand that when I got this car I was 17 and knew nothing about taking care of cars.

I do still really love this car. It was a good buy when I got it and I am still very attached to this car (always a mistake). I will never forget the day I drag raced a new Audi A4 and won! I know I won't be doing that with my new ride!

It was a fun car and it never once left me stranded. I had to drive it almost 800 miles in two days once and it performed great!

I think at the age and mileage the repairs are normal, but these are high end cars and have high end prices.

Here are a few tips for finding a good E30. If you are gonna buy one of these, I strongly suggest you get it checked out by someone who really knows BMW's or at least German cars.

Second, don't be wooed by the low mileage examples that are floating around. Your best bet is actually a higher mileage car (e.g. 150-170K). Most of these cars have already had most of the expensive things replaced and most of the motors still have a lot of life left in them. Also I've noticed that lower mileage E30 are very expensive. A decent price for one of these is between $2,000 and $3,000.

DO NOT buy one without the service history! It may look great, drive great, smell great, etc, but you will never know what has been done to it.

The drive train on these is pretty much bullet proof, but you should check the engine seals and gaskets. At this age they will go on almost any car.

Where these cars will really get you is on the suspension, specifically the front end. The parts are not all that expensive compared with most cars, but they are hard to work on an as such labor is a small fortune. Again this is where a BMW specialist is handy. When something in the front end goes, treat it like the doing a clutch and replace as many parts as you can while the car is there. Trust me, this will save you a lot of money in the long run.

In closing I have to say I really do feel that these are some of the best cars ever made and I will miss mine greatly, I just don't have the time and money to keep on driving mine.


24th Nov 2009, 15:15

All of the above are common issues with these cars. At 20+ years old these cars will require a significant investment for freshening. However, once this is taken care of you will have a bullet proof BMW that will keep you happy for many more years.

I would only recommend one of these cars if you are willing to tackle repair work on your own (or have deep pockets). They are very simple to work on, and parts themselves are not that much more expensive than a domestic vehicle.

That aside, I couldn't be happier with mine.

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