Comments: 1-15, 16-20
Very,very poor build quality...
Left exhaust 5/8" lower than right...
Left rear bumper cap 1/2" lower than right...
Left side wheel-well arch is 1/2" lower than the right side wheel-well arch (found out this is a common Acura/Honda phenomenon!!!)...
Trunk lid shifted left...
Left side of trunk lid 1/4" higher than right...
3 blemished under clearcoat (Nighthawk Blk paint)...
Poor body panel gap consistency (according to Honda N.A. they're within their tolerances)...
Rattle rt. side dash (2 attempted fixes by dealer)...
Rattle from rt.c-pillar (" " " ")...
Love the looks/profile of the car...
Great highway cruiser (except for the rattles)...
Averaging 24.3 mpg (mixed city/hwy)...
Best thing about this car is the 3.0 V6...
Handling/braking only average...
Have had it for almost 1 year, looking to switch into an '06 VW GTI with DSG (VW panel fitment is incredible)...
Have owned 10 Honda vehicles... the last 3-5 years I've seen a drastic drop in product Q/A.
Will cease my brand loyalty until Honda gets back to where they were 5 years ago.
Seems like you're very upset about gaps in panels measuring 1.2399732 nanometers. Are you kidding?
PS--So you're upset about invisible panel gaps, but you're willing to get into a VW? You have heard about their recent reliability problems, right? Kinda puts those panel gap thingees into perspective, huh?
"1.2399732 nM" gaps are one thing... consistency on gap widths
is another issue.
You missed my 2 points:
1. Hondas are still great cars, they're just nowhere near the quality they used to be 3-5 years ago.
2. As far as the body panel fitment tolerances, I realize that I may be a bit more critical than 95% of the population.I remind myself that it's only a Honda, but that's what always made them such a great car... for the price of admission, you were always getting more than you paid for!!! That no longer applies even though it's still a great "deal" for most buyers. I guess panel inconsistencies are overlooked by most (sort of like pictures that are hung crooked).
See "Overpriced Rattle Box" under 2004 Accords. The comment
section is also very interesting.
Sorry. It was hard to realize your two points when you spent so much effort describing panel gaps. Face the facts: Nothing's as well built as it used to be. Even Hondas.
How you all get into that 'nm' scale? Better we should buy part from Honda and assemble them ourselves.
I'm an anal person, but I've never heard of anyone acutally going to their car and measuring panel gaps... this is coming from a guy who cleans his dash with Q-tips and tooth picks. wow
Wait til he finds out the average person has one foot larger than the other. Might have to adjust the foot pedals to accomodate this anomaly.
Maybe the road was no 100% level that's why you had the differences that you mentioned. I checked my car, same model, and found no faults.
I have a Honda Accord LX 2005 car manual shift car. I have driven manual shift cars, including a Honda Accord for more than 600,000 miles without any shifting problems. However, with my 2005 Honda Accord LX, I have trouble shifting into the reverse gear. Every second time I try to reverse, the clutch will shift to the right, but not backwards, without me finally forcing it.
Has anyone ever had a similar problem? This problem has existed since the car was new. I have had a Honda master mechanic familiar with manual transmissions look at it three times. The first two times I was told the car was new, it would work itself out. It hasn't. Now they are willing to replace the horizontal shift and the reverse shift. They are cautioning me that there is no assurance this won't happen again. Having driven my 1992 Honda Accord for 175,000 miles with no major problems, I am very unhappy with this problem. I have been worried about not being able to reverse and have only driven this car about 9,000 miles.
Any suggestions would be highly appreciated.
My Honda Civic does that however I have 157,000 miles. For some reason I have to let the clutch in and out a few times for it to go into reverse gear. Even then it still grinds once in a while. my 1994 Accord with 258,000 miles does not do this. I talked to my dad and he says that all his cars have done that from his first car (a Javelin).
Interesting QC comments... see 2003 CRV entries.
I bought Honda Certified car on Dec 2005 with 4700 miles. Now I have ~ 35K miles on it.
Current dealer found major set back in front wheels. Non uniform tire wear. The car pulls to the right. There are several random noises from front suspension and wheels. Feel like parts are falling apart.
Now the CARFAX shows that this is an case of undisclosed prior collision. It happened in Sep. Current dealer says part of my warranty (wheel and suspension) is no longer valid. They are suggesting me to go to a body shop. They refused to do any repair. A total loss of more than 27K. I got junk and got trapped in a car fraud deal. Shame on Honda who does not take proper action on those fraud dealers. No more Honda.
Regarding the difficulty shifting into reverse...
I had this problem on my 2000 Accord. Someone told me that the 2000 MT didn't have synchros for first and reverse gears. If the shifter would stick while trying to engage first or reverse, I would let out the clutch pedal *slightly* while putting pressure on the gearshift lever and it would engage the gear right away.
Not sure if this is the same on newer accords, but it could be. Give it a try; it might work.
With regard to the thread topic, I check body gaps too. Guess I'm odd, or maybe it is the hotrodder/restorer in me.