2000 Peugeot 106 GTi from UK and Ireland - Comments

The diff went noisy, and then spat the bearings through the casing.

The rear torsion arm radius bearings collapsed.

The head gasket went resulting in an oil leak.

But for a cheap nasty hot hatch with a few mods, it does shove 172 Clios and Civic Type Rs all the way to 120. I've done it many of times.

You'er having a laugh, no way can a 106 keep up, let alone beat a civic type r or a clio 172, it does 60 in 8.5 seconds, the type r and clio are proper hot hatches, the 106 is just a nippy 1.6.

A type R gets to 100 in about 16 seconds, the 172 in about 17. The 106 GTI can't get near that acceleration, so how could it possibly get to 120 quicker?

'But for a cheap nasty hot hatch with a few mods, it does shove 172 Clios and Civic Type Rs all the way to 120. I've done it many of times.'

To the commentors so far, read what he said... "with a few mods", so not standard.

Even with a few mods, he aint shoving no civic type r.

It would take a lot more than "a few mods" to drop the 106 gti's 0-60 time from 8.4 to 6.4 which is the 0-60 time of the type r. looks like another case of a boy with his toy getting carried away.

I use a little formula for evaluating horsepower from 0-60 performance that I learned on the Internet, of all places. :)

It's certainly not 100 percent accurate, and it won't work for mega-horsepower exotics, but for cars of up to about 400 brake horsepower it does come fairly close.

I've posted this elsewhere, so pardon the redundancy, but the formula is very simple:

HP = car weight (lbs) / 2 / 0-60 time (seconds)

So for the Peugeot 106: I round the weight of the vehicle up to 2200 lbs (about 1000 kg--car with driver & petrol.) Divide this by 2 and then again by the 0-60 time of 8.4 seconds, and we get a horsepower approximation of 131. The stock 1.6 litre engine for the Peugeot 106 GTi develops 120 horsepower, or about 91 percent of this figure, so the formula seems to hold pretty well for this application. Now, in order to have an acceleration of 0-60 in 6.4, seconds, you might need 2200 / 2 / 6.4 or about 172 horsepower. And if the 91 percent rule applies, then you could possibly get away with as little as 172 x.91, or 156 hp.

Whether this is in the range of possibility with only a handful of modifications to the Peugeot engine would be hard for me to say. But I would say that it would seem to be within the realm of probability.

However, I do know there's an old adage originally found in an American speed shop from the 1940s: "Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?"

106's r fit!!!

"106's r fit!!!" - classic :)

To be fair, the chap basically making a point about power-to-weight ratio is on the button; my 106 makes about 10bhp over a std GTI output, but because it weighs 2/3rds of the other cars to begin with, it's on the money; the problem is the small engine capacity. Inability to work the gears and keep the engine on the boil will cause you to embarass yourself.

Why do people always go on about Type R's as if there the fasted thing going, they're over rated, and overpriced.

I have a 106 gti myself, and all that's done is 4 branch full exhaust system, ram air induction kit and power boost valve, and I have no problem sticking neck and neck with Type R's, and the thing about the 106 is you don't have to rev the crap out of it to get it to move either.

Like the first comment said, he has a few mods and I know for one that the standard airbox on the 106 is very restrictive. An induction kit makes a big difference, but standard to standard, yeah maybe it wouldn't keep up, but how much does a CTR cost? At least 7 or 8 grand? A good 106 for about 2 grand, the same mods I did only cost around 600euro, that's still about 1/3 the price of the CTR...

Not worth comparing the two cars because the Type R is leagues ahead in most aspects TBH, and it's upto the driver to decide if they think it's worth it to pay the extra premium to have better comfort, performance, residuals, reliability etc etc.

A 106 with those mods will still not stay with a Civic Type R. I'll prove it, you bring your banger 106 down and I'll race you in a standard Civic Type R. I've beaten all the chavs in the 106's, Saxo's etc etc with their bean can exhausts.

A Civic Type R is not the fastest thing out there, but it will definitely give a lot of cars a good run; even a 1.6 CRX is quicker and a lot better built etc etc than your 106.