22nd Feb 2011, 15:25

The Civic has been around since 1972, so it has them all beat!

22nd Feb 2011, 17:42

I'm the Echo/Yaris guy, and I'm glad to see someone said this before me. It's exactly right. Toyota Vitz (Japan) has also been around for quite a while. It's what they call the Yaris in Japan. My exact point is that I would prefer a proven car in North America, which the Yaris is. The Fiesta is not yet. That was my whole point from the beginning.

I'm not into personal attacks, because that's not what this site is for, but it kind of throws me when someone says I must a own a or test drive a car before I can know about it, or comment on it. If people want to buy the Fiesta, go ahead. I think it is wise to wait a couple of years for any new model that's coming to your country. But it's a free country. That's the last post the Echo/Yaris guy will make on this subject.