21st Feb 2020, 18:22

True, but cost cutting is still a trick used by manufacturers today. I preferred 1980s cars' simplicity when they went wrong though - easy to fix or improve.

21st Feb 2020, 23:44

That must have been one rare 1993 Chevy Celebrity, seeing how the model was discontinued after 1990.

22nd Feb 2020, 00:17

We had several of these for brand new company cars. Mine was black, luggage rack, wire wheel hubcaps. No issues. Cannot fault the Pontiacs that were all new. In three years they were all replaced with Fords. Had many sedans. I recall the Pontiac radio had an equalizer with slide controls. Engines were 3.8 6 as I recall. Great engines. Drive trains no issues. Again keeping cars under 3 years, there shouldn’t be. Maybe a 10 year old example might have clear coat loss. By then that’s 2 more company cars to have had. Tremendous benefit getting company cars for decades. No expense, no gas, no insurance bills. Company credit card. Some of the guys had them for their only car and didn’t own one. Paid mortgages off with savings over time. Now many companies make you buy your own. Some still do. This was the perfect size work car.

24th Feb 2020, 20:20

Sounds like you praise Japanese cars. Ever see any late model Nissan Altimas that can't seem to hold their paint? Or a late model Civic with the clear coat flaking off? These are well known finish problems on both vehicles.

25th Feb 2020, 05:41

"it seemed it was a small miracle if any of these made it past the 100k mark."

If you are talking about the Pontiac 6000, I would like to point out a small detail that there are 162 model 6000 reviews on this website from years 1983-1991.

Exactly 139 of them including the ones measured in KMs have made it past the 100,000 mile mark (4 reviews don't say). That's just a small website alone. Now imagine years ago when there were large amounts of these cars everywhere.