13th Jun 2022, 18:50

You can search around the internet all day for your "citation" if you want - you won't find one, other than vested interests from governments and/or business claiming you need to junk your 8 year old car and buy a new one just because... we say so.

Or you can be smart and buy a good condition 10 year old car that has been looked after, and with further maintenance and some minor repairs will easily last another few years reliably.

As for cars from "back in the day" if someone is enjoying their 70s, 80s or 90s car, why ruin this for them? Chances are they know enough about cars to keep these vehicles running and it likely is not their daily driver. And I bet a brand new electric car will never appeal to them.

As far as I am aware the average car lasts between 10 - 15 years, and 150,0000 - 200,000 on it before it gets retired. And that has been the case for many decades now, but here is the thing - looking back I bet the more modern cars cost people more in repairs during the long run ;)

I could also cite my own experiences though I understand that is anecdotal and never good enough on here, but I say if people wanna buy new or used, leave them to it, they both probably are just doing what is best for them (unless they buy new every couple of years just cos they were told so, then they are wrong) when you break down the numbers.

13th Jun 2022, 19:33

Also, 20+ years in the taxi business is my citation, hundreds of cars and lots of drivers giving me their opinion on what they like/dislike is my citation.

Anecdotal, but I have a huge number of cars to work with, I can tell what lasts and what does not, I pay for the repairs on multiple cars ;)

For context, I live in the United Kingdom, I know the crossover in comments section can get a bit confusing with many people all over the world commenting here and there about different things. I will say this - in the UK car culture is a bit different here. Wouldn't say we are anti car (like most governments unfortunately), but the USA seems to have a better culture, people here don't seem to like cars as much. In 2010 they introduced a scrappage scheme which saw a lot of perfectly good cars go off the road for a grant towards new diesel cars. Now they are telling us diesel cars are bad and we should all bin those as well and buy electric when the infrastructure is far from there yet. And likely will be equally if not more expensive to charge and run these cars in the future, they will still find a way to tax them, and the environment effect is very much still in debate.

Myself for business (and personal use) I have zero interest in this. We need quality cars and cheaper fuel, not electric gimmicks packed with technology most people will not use or care about. Then there is the privacy concerns with the fact everything will be electric and tracked. But that I feel is another conversation also too big for this comment section.

14th Jun 2022, 13:55

youtube.com/watch?v=MJracmdSQDU

Which one of these do you like - or would take?