1982 Peugeot 505 GR 2L carb

Summary:

A very comfortable sedan with excellent handling, just needs a more powerful engine

Faults:

Oil leak from rocker cover.

Rear brake callipers seized up occasionally. This means the handbrake doesn't always work.

Tweed wool seat cloth has started to un-stitch itself on the driver's seat.

Linkages in 5spd manual gearbox broke, meaning no gears could be selected.

General Comments:

Considering this car is 20 years old, it is extremely reliable and cheap to run. The things that have gone wrong are fairly minor really, and fairly inexpensive to do.

It's an absolute joy to drive. Fantastic handling through corners, yet maintains one of the most comfortable rides I've ever experienced. This is due to its amazing 8-valve (Peugeot patented) shock absorbers and fully independent suspension setup. It can go through corners faster than many new cars.

As I've mentioned it has a very comfortable ride. It soaks up all bumps. While you might hear them due to a fairly rattly dash board, you never actually feel bumps through the seats. Seats are very comfortable and supportive.

The cabin is a fairly airy place, with good vision all around.

However, driving position is not very good. The brake and clutch pedal are far too close together. The steering wheel is not adjustable at all. Gear stick is a long way away, and when in 1st (on Right Hand Drive model) it can be hard to reach if you have short arms. It also has a weird gear-knob which looks like a golf club. You do get used to this however, and other more conventional cars feel a bit strange!

Gearbox and clutch are very easy and light, although the gearbox has a long throw, which means it feels a little imprecise.

The engine, while strong and reliable, is quite wheezy and underpowered. It only has 71kw and 161nm, which isn't much to haul around a large sedan. It is fairly willing to go, and will rev happily up to 6750rpm, although there isn't really any performance benefit from doing this.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 3rd July, 2002

14th Jun 2003, 21:11

Since writing that review the car has cost me around AU$3500 in repairs. It needed a new clutch, clutch master cylinder, brake master cylinder, rebuild the rear calipers, replace the steering flector, and the carburettor has failed.

Still love it though and would happily own another.

1981 Peugeot 505 SR 1.8 4 cylinder

Summary:

Old car, good car. Still is!

Faults:

Bad electrics. Watch for the fuse box as it's not that well protected. Oxidising and rust can be a big problem in these cars if not cared for.

Gear box blew at around about 290,000 k's. Not bad I guess. Bloody expensive to replace though... Have spent more money on restoration than the value of the car itself (worth it)!

Don't use any other tyre than Michelin. Handling will be downgraded otherwise. In Australia, impossible to find alloy spec rims. They're all taken...

General Comments:

Initially, when I got this car, I never really looked after it. Only until I started to take it on long trips, did I fully appreciate the real meaning that the manufacturer intended. That is, one of the best grand tourer cars around. I've been in a lot of cars made in the 80's, but none than the 505 has more comfortable seats, ride, handling, heating etc...'than the 505' (excluding bmw's) :). Straight line speed from the 1.8 4cyl engine may be a little soft, but, it's not straight line speed these cars are intended for. Around corners, your on rails. It's very hard not to feel confident in a 505 or any pug for that matter. The 505 will keep up with the most modern hog cars around bends these days!

For a 21 year old car with power windows, best seats in the market and a good reliable engine that loves the rpm's! Get a 505. There are heaps around if you look. Just make sure it's been loved. It 'will' love you back!

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 24th May, 2002

6th Jul 2002, 17:59

I agree completely. I own an Australian spec 1982 505 GR. I love it to bits. Luckily mine has barely any rust at all, although the paint on the bonnet is a bit sunbaked and faded.

I recommend all Aussie/NZ 505 owners join www.aussiefrogs.com, as there are heaps of owners of old Pugs there to help you out if you have any problems, or just want to chat.

21st Nov 2002, 19:32

I've owned a 505 GR for 18 months, and it's the most reliable car I've owned, apart from the non-original electronic ignition a previous owner installed. Three mechanics and an auto electrician looked it over, and couldn't find the fault, so I ripped out the impostor electronic ignition, and it's run like a dream since.

The various mechanics said it should hold its tune post electronic ignition, but it didn't. It used more fuel than a Ford V8 I once owned, and ended up flooding on start-up.

Stick to the original specs, if possible, if you want to avoid hair pulling frustration at traffic lights at peak hour, and if you're bald, you can reminisce about the follicular good old days, as you slap your pate while trying to start your Pug.