6th Oct 2011, 17:54

If you loved your Park Avenue so much, then why did you get rid of it? You have posted many comments in the past on a lot of Buick threads that you don't like the Lucerne, but yet you own one now.

7th Oct 2011, 18:31

First of all, how do you know that I am the one who made those posts?? LOL. Well, you are right, and that is a good question. I guess it was just a dumb moment of impulsiveness. I bought the Lucerne because it was about the closest thing I could get to the Park Avenue in a new car and stay with a Buick. I usually buy a new car every 3-4 years, and I had the Park Avenue about 3 years. I really wanted the Enclave, but reasoned that it was too expensive and not practical for me. Well now of course I wish I had it to do over again. I wish I had stuck to my original plan and kept the Park Avenue another year, and then bought the Enclave after it was paid off. What I really wanted to do was keep my Park Avenue as a second car, but I just couldn't afford to not have the trade-in.

7th Nov 2011, 15:28

With the problems you are having and the "wet dog smell", it sounds to me like you bought a flood damaged car. Meaning that the car at one time in its life, has had significant water damage, meaning that it's been underwater. I can't stress enough to people, always ask for a Carfax or other similar report when buying either a used OR new car. I've seen even new cars (salesman demos) that have been significantly damaged and pieced back together to sell as new. Buyer beware! and that's for every make and model, from Hyundai to Bentley.

8th Nov 2011, 14:57

Demos are not considered new cars.

22nd Dec 2011, 15:38

Demos are new cars. If a car has never been registered, it is considered a new car. Once a car is registered, it is then a used car. Though I am not sure if it applies in every state.

23rd Dec 2011, 16:58

A demo often has several thousand miles on it before it is made for sale. Do you consider that new? The dealer certainly doesn't; once a car is driven off a lot, it loses nearly 1/3 of its value.

18th Jun 2012, 14:48

You should have gotten these very minor cosmetic details fixed before purchase. By signing and driving, you basically implied that you accepted these issues. Some people are never happy!

20th Nov 2013, 11:18

You bought a car with 60 thousand miles. You basically brought someone else's problem. You should have had the car checked out by a mechanic before purchasing.

21st Nov 2013, 11:14

A lot can happen to a car with 6 miles or 60 miles. Salesman cars usually do not have 7000 miles on them. For sale the moment it's driven.

14th Jun 2016, 22:54

You cannot acquire and the comment on a vehicle that has 64000 miles on it as being a lemon. Who knows how the previous owner treated the vehicle. If you bought it new, then fine, but come on.

20th Jun 2016, 22:29

I have a 2015 Enclave I bought new and I have also noticed a foul odor, kind of like a wet dog, when I have the vents running with or without AC. At first it smelled more like tree pulp, but now it seems to get worse. If I hit the recirculate button it goes away. I also am having an ongoing issue since new where I hear a low humming noise at speeds of 62-65 mph. I have taken it to the dealer (more than one dealer) multiple times and they hear the noise, but don't know how to fix it and I don't care to take my car to them time after time to try and guess what will fix it, so I will probably have to live with it until my lease is up.

I have driven Buicks since 2005, but this will most likely be my last one. Between the annoying issues I have had on this one and the news that the Enclave will most likely be down-sized in the next few years, I will probably move on. It's a shame, Buick had some great models years ago, but the new ones just mimic cheaper, more boring models. It seems that China has a bigger hand in the division now than the US, and about half of the new models aren't even made in the US.

21st Jun 2016, 09:31

It's a real shame. I have owned many Buicks from 91-present and I feel the same as you. Looked at the new models the other day and there is nothing being offered for a traditional Buick buyer.

8th Jul 2016, 01:29

Sadly for the most part no manufacturers do any more. The Chrysler 300 and Chevy Impala are decent cars that at least still look somewhat American, but neither are anything that stir up much excitement in me, and they are both more modern than traditional, with bucket seats with a huge front console, sporty ride, huge rims with tiny tires on the nicer trims, etc.

My next vehicle may be a low mile Lincoln Navigator (I can't afford a new one) and I am a little hopeful since I saw the new Chevy Traverse will have similar dimensions to the current model unlike the '17 Acadia, so I am hoping that Buick will at least continue to offer the larger wheelbase on the Enclave optionally. It may lose about 4 inches in width if it has the same width as the Acadia, but if the length remains around 200 inches, I would still consider another Enclave unless they completely ruin the styling. I do really like the looks of the current SUV, but that could easily not be the case for its replacement. The ride and handling will also have a large bearing on my decision.

8th Jul 2016, 12:32

The 300 is not American, it's made by Fiat.

10th Jul 2016, 06:55

Fiat does not make luxury sedans. The Chrysler 300 has been around since 2003. If you want to get real picky, you could have ordered a 300 when it was an earlier gen big car with fins from the 50s.

10th Jul 2016, 13:00

Good point. I guess then it would be wrong to say GM builds the Enclave.

10th Jul 2016, 13:07

Jeeps were also originally built by Ford and AMC

The 2003 300 has nothing North American about it, it's built on a Mercedes platform with a Mercedes R&D motor. Unless you want to argue the 3.5, then you're right, you have a North American motor in a euro platform.

10th Jul 2016, 18:05

Here's the easiest way possible to tell what you own. Look directly at the top of your legal car title. If you have a lien and cannot see it, then look straight at your vehicle registration card. I am sure when you apply to a bank for a new car loan, they will expect what is exactly on the title and VIN. Hope this helps absolutely for all time the simplest answer to what your car keys go to.

As far as the model on this review, it's a GM vehicle. Dissecting parts content is not a title. If that were the case, imagine the nightmare putting a LS engine made by GM into a titled 1932 Ford as an analogy. It's not a Corvette from using its block, it's still a 32 Ford. I hope the import set on here especially reads this. It also goes the other direction. I could own a Sunbeam Tiger or a TVR Griffith with a Ford V8 engine. Purchased new. They are not Fords on the titles. Hope this clears up all the confusion once and for all. Hope everyone knows this review is a GM and no other.

12th Jul 2016, 22:08


Hopefully this will shed light on the individual confused on who owns Chrysler.

15th Jul 2016, 00:15

Yes, the current model Enclave is obviously built by General Motors and has one of the largest parts contents from North America at around 75%. There are unfortunately several Buick models manufactured and designed overseas, but the Enclave is still a true blue model. Interestingly there are some import models with NA parts content near the Enclave's.