I have no idea where the commenter attends car shows, but the last one I attended in a small city's town square near my home featured an almost even mix of 6's and 8's. There were no factory stock vehicles except for the 64-66 Mustangs and one '70 Mustang. Fully half of the older classics had the inline 6's. If I wanted to look at engines, I can go to a speed shop.
I bought a 2004 Ford Mustang Coupe (V6) last year for $10,000. It came tricked out, but still I haven't had any problems with it at all! I have put 30,000 miles on it. Also my friend has a stock mustang V6, I see nothing wrong with buying a V6! Though I definitely suggest getting one with manual transmission! They rock.
City shows are all about neon lights and huge rims, not performance. That explains a lot about the shows you attend.
I am a Vette guy, yet recommended to my teen son for his first car a 95 GT Convertible as the best bang for buck. I think most of the commenters naysayers do not know the club aspect and charity benefits of show attendance. I have done Breast Awareness shows, Corvettes for Kids Cancer shows, Ronald McDonald House on and on. And raised a lot of money for good causes, while having a passion for cars.
I am in a large club with my son in Jacksonville with a huge Mustang following. Rather than criticize cars, ask if your car is just self serving, or helping others and learning through club events. I like our Tech Nights the best, especially the last one with over 100 members at our local new car dealer.
Good for you. The whole point about car clubs and car shows is (or SHOULD BE) about fellowship, fun, and enjoying cars. I dropped out of one Mustang club because of the "my engine is bigger than yours" attitude. The club I now belong to supports and encourages ALL Mustang owners to participate and enjoy their cars, whatever they are. We have Fox 4's and lots of 3.8 and 4.0 V-6's. Our membership has grown tremendously in the past few years, and community service and helping young car owners to find a healthy and productive environment to discuss and enjoy their cars is our goal. Not everyone (especially young people) can shell out an extra 10 grand just to say "I have a V-8". Mustang clubs should be about ALL Mustangs, not just the minority that can only be bought by the wealthy.
If you want a V6 Mustang that's your choice, just don't drive around pretending it's fast. We all know it isn't.
When did anyone say it wasn't your right to enjoy whatever you like? Have fun with your tricked out 6 cylinder. More power to ya! I was merely stating that I have never been to a show that has any V-6 or 4 cylinder Mustangs, plain and simple... and that those types of Mustangs don't interest me. Really, I am glad there are enthusiasts at all levels, as it makes cars much more fun for all. People have the same attitude towards imports too, with the ricer comments and such, so there is always going to be a certain level of competition in the car world.
As far as only wealthy people being able to afford V-8's, well I'm not sure where you live or drive, but insurance isn't a big difference for me to go to a GT. Also the $4K difference in price isn't going to break the bank. Before you go quoting a $10K difference in price, the reality is to get into a Premium V-6, which is what ALL the dealers stock, you are going to be around $26K, and the GT is under $30K. The standard GT comes with much of what the Premium V-6 has, so the $4K difference is accurate. Yes, if you get a stripper V-6, you can get it for maybe $7K or $8K less than a GT, but who orders a stripper car these days??
Too bad people have been so irresponsible on the road for so long that insurance is ridiculous for young people these days. Poor driving habits have led to that unfortunate outcome. You can always buy an older Fox 5.0 or one of the 90's GT's to get into a V-8 without getting killed on insurance.
"who orders a stripper car these days??"
Most young buyers of Mustangs. A "stripper" Mustang comes with all power, air and a 5-speed (which most younger buyers prefer for added sporting appeal). The 2010 V-6 Mustangs are sold in my area for $15,000. That's 10 grand less than a GT any way you look at it. The difference in payments and insurance on a GT and a V-6 is roughly $250 a month. That is a HUGE amount for a college student, young person just starting out, or a person on a limited income.
Most younger Mustang owners I know PREFER a 5-speed stripper so they are free to take the $250 a month (based on 60 months) they save and add nicer wheels, power add-ons and cosmetic improvements AS THEY CAN AFFORD it, rather than forking over the whole extra $250 every single month for 60 months (which comes to a whopping $15,000 extra over the course of a 60-month loan).
You're telling me. I'm 17, and insurance costs me over $2,000 a year! I don't drive anything fancy, just a stock '96 Corolla. Spending that kind of money on insurance makes it difficult to even fill my car with gas, even though it gets really good gas mileage. I know I don't have a lot of experience behind the wheel, but I don't think I'm that bad of a driver, I've never been in an accident or gotten a ticket.
"Your telling me. I'm 17, and insurance costs me over $2,000 a year!"
I have long been a staunch defender of younger drivers and I KNOW they are discriminated against. A 17-year-old friend of mine who owns a custom Mustang was given a $100 ticket because he had a very slightly tinted cover on his license plate. A 60-year-old friend has a custom vehicle with a cover on his license plate that is so dark you can't read it at all. He has NEVER been pulled over. I'm 62 and run dark covers on the tail lights. I, too, have never been pulled over.
I wish law enforcement people would realize that picking on younger drivers creates a very BAD impression, and does little to build respect among our young people.
I believe the critical age is 25. I have seen an ad by State Farm or All State insurance making the point that the human brain is fully developed at age 25 and not earlier. The point is that the part of the brain that makes judgment calls takes that long to complete development.
They were pushing for graduated drivers license laws.
Non-the-less, I agree that young drivers deserve a break as long as they keep their records clean.
You can defend them all you want, but statistics show a 50% accident rate in young drivers in their first year, which is horrendous. Yes they are discriminated against. The law enforcement officials are surely hard on young drivers, because in their eyes they have to earn their way on the road. There is no real effort needed to obtain a license in this country, and that needs to change in order to make things safer and to give inexperienced drivers a better head start into a life of safe good driving habits. Insurance would be going down pretty quickly if these things were incorporated into our laws for driving and passing the road test.
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