17th Apr 2003, 10:38

For the Honda techs comments. The head gasket went before the car had 10,000 Kms on it, sounds like a factory defect Right Chief? Or is it because of the lousy cooling system? Where would the coolant go? A leak in the system? Or maybe the engineering of a iron block and an aluminum head, different expansion rates?

So the Wheel bearings, CV joints (and Boots), Timing belt, alternator and water pump are all standard things to replace at regular intervals? The running costs on this car are much higher then my T Bird, its bigger heavier, but built stronger.

As there is more market dilution of Honda's we will see these types of problems become much more common.

10th Nov 2003, 07:08

Come on man First of all it's a automatic what do I have to say!!! That's why you hate the performance


21st Apr 2004, 20:01

OK... your just a honda hater hatin... Just because your T-Bird is a lead-sled and the civic is a nice, reliable, and zippy car, doesn't mean you have to talk trash on the civic.. I think that you wish your ford was as good as the civic.. If you knew ANYTHING about cars, you wouldn't have problems.

1st Jul 2004, 22:45

You have to compare Apple with apple no apple with Pineapple. You have to compare the performance of this car with cars in its class. So I don't think that comparison you did is valid.

12th Oct 2006, 18:40

Something tells me those people with their Thunderbirds had the 5.0L V8 version. If so, then OF COURSE a V8 is going to outperform (speed-wise, at least) a 4 cylinder Civic. However, I doubt that a Thunderbird would out-handle a Civic. The have a longer wheelbase and over-all length. (At least I think that would affect handling... I could be wrong, though.)

23rd Jul 2007, 21:46

My first car was a 1997 Honda Civic LX 4dr auto with 84,000 miles.

At 98,000, the motor threw a rod during the middle of a snow storm.

I also had a 1996 Honda Civic DX 4dr auto with 46,000 miles, & at 53,000 miles, the motor clunked & died. I brought it into the shop & guess what? They took off the oil pan & a chunk of a rod had fallen out.

Before this happened on both of these cars, I had checked the oil 2 days before hand & they were fine.

My 1996 now has a tranny that slips on occasion, & the "new" motor has got a knock to it on occasion, & also uses 1.5 - 2 qrts of oil between uses.

My 1997 had been in the shop 12x's in 12 months; once a month for something different! I have been left stranded by both of these cars!

The A/C will cost at least $500 to fix & it didn't work in the other car either.

Things that needed to be fixed on both:


CV joints

Catalytic converter


Power windows




Rear defrost



Torque converter

& more!

I have friends who have Civics, & can't wait to get rid of them! They've had bad luck such as I...

Also, the best mpg that I have ever gotten has been 33 on the hwy @ 55 mph with very conservative driving! Friends have gotten about 30!

25th Jan 2008, 21:08

Your VTEC has 1.6 Liters? My Pespi bottle has 2 liters, what's your point?

I own a 2005 Nissan Altima 3.5 SL that will still destroy new Accords and Civics. 250 HP, 250 Lb/Ft of torque stock wth 5 speed. Imagine if I actually modified it and riced it out! This engine puts out well over 300 HP in any Infinity or 350Z. If I put dragon decals and an airplane wing on it, I know I can get another 20 HP!!! LOL HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Hondas are slow, underpowered, outdated, overstated wimpy junk! You keep on driving them, and I'll see you in the slow lane kids, I'll be passing you soon!

12th Mar 2008, 18:39

My wife has a Honda Civic; it is a good nippy car, and nothing's gone wrong with it.

And Fords, come on, we know they're cheap. Unless it's a GT40, but we're not talking about cars in that class.

And for that Thunderbird, my Nissan Skyline R32 twin turbo world eat you for breakfast.

11th Nov 2008, 23:28

I got a 1996 Honda Civic close to 300.000 miles. Never been tampered with. CV joints have been replaced, spark plugs have not changed, oil every 3000 miles, 38 miles to a gallon gas, does not smoke or use oil.

8th Mar 2009, 09:33

I won't own a Ford and plan to stick with Honda's for now.

I agree if your Ford has served you better, then keep it and sell off the Honda cheap as it is sounding pretty bad.

I buy fixer upper cars only, I'm also a gen X'er. I have never bought a car that didn't need work. My first car needed both bumpers replaced from dents and a windshield and a clutch. I bought my first torque wrench, ramps, ratchet, sockets, and the clutch kit for a little less than the cost of getting the clutch done. I got to keep all the tools for good as well.

Next car was a rusty looking 4x4, which I spent hours doing the bodywork on. You have to know what you want. I will never lose money on a car, I buy the bottom of the barrel broken down heaps, spend a day making them run, then over time of ownership I replace and repair what needs to be fixed. I scour the classifieds for deals on parts and fix stuff as I find deals on parts. In the end I have double and tripled and quadrupled and even sold some for 5 times what I was into the car for. I've been doing it this way for almost 15 years and my eye is trained to see the potential not the rust on the bumper or crack in the glass windshield. I only buy cars I know have a good reputation as they sell quicker and easier when I am ready to make my money back and more money. I get to use the vehicle for free and it makes me happy having a great hobby that I get to learn new things all the time.

Honda is sort of a hit and miss type of car, but they do run for a long long time without any major problems, if your trained at hearing the problems before they get out of hand.

Fords on the other hand, show no problems at all, and just die all of a sudden, and the resale from my point of view, the way I do it. Resale is not good, it takes longer, more work to sell because you don't sell it the first week like other brands. Fords will sit 3 months before you even get it sold and by then your price is half the original asking price. Honda sell quick and get many responses very soon and it's sold within 2 days. Yes even 2 hours if you only want to double your money. Fords don't double period, a $1200 fixer upper will sell for maybe $1700...and take a long time before you even get that for it.

I have to say Honda is a better all around car... but duds exist, but they still run... a dud Ford is sitting in a field and won't run period.