24th Sep 2017, 18:23
What is with these correctional comments lately on '77 Catalina reviews that were posted many years ago?
24th Sep 2017, 20:14
Naw, he probably junked it and got another tired old Pontiac with the 455 V8, which he thinks has as much horsepower as the 6.2 liter in a 2018 Corvette.
25th Sep 2017, 08:51
I thought it was a horsepower correction on a follow up commenters error on actually knowing horsepower history on the 350 engine. That's what it was about. This engine has been widely available for decades. Now they have deflected their mistake to big blocks vs another 350 crate. Doesn't matter if this car is currently on the road. Other reviewers still own them. Cones down to knowing your 350.
25th Sep 2017, 13:52
"tired old Pontiac". That last sentence in the original review states that the car runs like a dream. That I can believe, Pontiac built some pretty durable long lasting V8s back in their day.
25th Sep 2017, 16:34
I think we have an import owner in the mix. Never owned one. I had some great new ones and agree.
25th Sep 2017, 23:58
Um, yeah... he also refers to it as an "old bucket of bolts". His reference to newer cars challenging its "speed and ability" makes it clear that he romped on it when he drove it "for pleasure on Sundays".
26th Sep 2017, 12:32
That's part of the allure. It's not any fun if you don't open the trips once in a while on a hot vintage Pontiac. Usually the bucket of bolts comment comes from a wife. Or seeing your very first rat rod. Mine never got why I would buy any old car without air conditioning. So I bought one with it. Now it's a nice car. Drive what you like.
26th Sep 2017, 13:05
Um, yeah... but saying it runs like a dream would totally contradict your assertion that the car is tired and old.
26th Sep 2017, 21:34
Is there really a rhyme or reason to nitpick on a review that was posted 15 years ago?
27th Sep 2017, 10:09
It's not anything at all pertaining to the date of the review. It's irrelevant. It's responding to car owners discussing this model. And some own it today. And actually owned one or maybe two before. Apparently one recent commenter has even recently benefited from learning about the 350 GM engine that was used in many models and platforms. I have owned 3 Camaros with this timeless engine; some were bought decades ago. But still have interest as an example. I currently own an estate car. Whatever comments the previous owner had, I am now there to continue its further restoration and story.
27th Sep 2017, 19:00
I'm pretty sure that the car on review was more than likely equipped with the Pontiac built 350, and not the Chevy built found in Camaros.
28th Sep 2017, 09:23
True the 350 Chevrolet is better. Lighter, smaller and more popular. Horsepower was more the emphasis on the earlier comments vs what division. Most pulled the Pontiac 350, even the HO, and went with a direct bolt in big block. On this review model I wouldn't.
28th Sep 2017, 20:33
Going from a Pontiac to a Chevy (if that is what you are referring to) is not a "direct bolt in"; the blocks are completely different. Also saying that the Chevy 350 is better is only your personal opinion. If you are a true GM fan, then respect all the divisions (what's left of them) for what they are and mainly were. There was a point in time when GM didn't have it's head up its ass when each division (except Cadillac) built their own 350 motor. Some people try to claim that they were all the same which is 100% wrong. The one thing they did have in common was that they were all proven reliable. I would never swap a Chevy in place of a Pontiac. Olds V8s are my favorite too.
29th Sep 2017, 11:19
Never said that. The Pontiac 350 was not the greatest engine to hop up, but you could do direct bolt in swaps with a Pontiac 400-455. Many owners did just that. I did not say drop a Chevrolet 350. I often drove my buddy's 69 Ram Air III (not 350) 4 speed GTO convertible that he purchased new. I only wish I had bought it for his 3000.00 asking price long ago. As with many of us, he went to the next greatest thing. I also ran across a Rallye 350 Olds with the insurance beater package. Again none of the cube discussion or make of motor was ever the topic. It was being off responding to the original reviewers horsepower rating. How the conversation deflected far so far clearly illustrates that they want us to forget this lack of knowledge. My favorite Pontiacs are early 60s. It was pretty cool had John Delorean had a prototype to inspire the GTO model. I still cannot believe Pontiac is gone.
29th Sep 2017, 19:13
Ok, very well. I thought that you were referring to a Chevy swap in your previous comment with the words "direct big block bolt in". This doesn't apply to Pontiac because there was no big block Pontiac. Most if not all of their blocks were the same medium size. The best thing to do is go with the bigger cubic inch swap. My last classic I owned was a '77 Grand Prix with a 301. Very weak with no power, but one hell of a strong, smooth, reliable runner. If I kept it, my plans were to put in a Pontiac 400 which was also a factory option for that year make and model. Now before you reply, please note that I have nothing against Chevy V8s. I always liked Pontiac & Oldsmobile better.