1987 Renault 25 R25 GTX 2.2 petrol from Australia and New Zealand

Summary:

Practicality, character and economy balanced by poor component quality

Faults:

Steering column bearings and shaft replaced.

Rear wheel bearing, rear wheel brake cylinders and brake lines replaced.

Front discs, pads and hoses replaced.

Both driveshafts replaced (one new, one s/h).

Anti-roll bar drop links and bushes replaced.

Water and air temperature sensors, CO potentiometer replaced to cure rich running problem.

Fuel gauge/trip computer replaced.

Cam belt replaced at 120,000 miles (easy job).

Driver's window winder motor and stereo unit replaced with s/h parts.

Front shocks replaced.

Removed all AC components (didn't work).

The following parts came from a spare car: rear struts, tailgate, windscreen, starter motor, driver's seat, brake master and clutch slave cylinders.

The clutch and gearbox will follow.

Ongoing faults: heater is either off or fully on, syncro gone on first, weak on second, excessive play in final drive.

General Comments:

It's a shame the French aren't as good at BUILDING cars as they are at DESIGNING them! If you aren't an enthusiast/mechanic like me, owning one of these would be expensive and frustrating. The quality of the running gear components and some of the controls and trim is sub-standard (squeezing suppliers?).

As a car, the 25 is one of Renault's better efforts. The styling is sharp and distinctive, aging well. It's unusual in being a large FWD hatch, very useful load carrier, though the legroom is not generous for it's size. The 25 is light for it's size; combined with the quick, light steering and torquey motor, makes it nimble around town.

The 2.2 litre 8 valve motor is the car's best feature: they appear to be bullet-proof, not particularly powerful, but heaps of torque, the Rennix EFI works brilliantly, and the car is astonishing economical (best 39 mpg on a trip). Combined with a generous 70plus litre tank, touring range is excellent.

Ride is harsh over small bumps, excellent on large bumps, treats speed bumps with disdain. Big anti-roll bars keep things under control in the corners, car is quite nicely balanced, with lift-off oversteer. Alas, bumpy corners are a nightmare with truly horrendous bump-steer; how they could release a car with such a chronic and dangerous fault amazes me. Brakes are excellent despite rear drums.

Driving position odd, with angled wheel, offset instruments hard to read, seats lack lateral support, but are comfortable. Relaxed tourer. The standard Philips stereo and 6.5 inch speakers are very good, column controls.

Easy car to work on (just as well!), you can climb into the engine bay. Mechanically quite simple.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 12th July, 2006

16th Jul 2006, 15:33

I should add to the above that the parts back-up from Renault (in NZ) has been very good in terms of price and availability. Both Supreme in Wellington and the Gallerie in Auckland have been great to deal with; makes all the difference maintaining an older car.

19th Oct 2006, 08:23

I'm just about to purchase a 2.2 ltr GTX auto, when I say purchase I mean recieve, any major points to look out for? it's a 1989 F plate with relatively low miles.

18th Feb 2007, 12:04

Best cars in the world had a dozen never a bad one.

1987 Renault 25 GTS 2.0 litre from UK and Ireland

Summary:

Very underrated car

Faults:

Clutch cable went.

Exhaust and battery replaced.

Some dashboard lights would go on and off intermittently.

General Comments:

One of the best cars I owned. The 2.0 litre engine was a bit rough and vocal, but gave surprising performance for its size. Very wieldy handling, could be good fun on a twisty road. Ride not as comfortable as my old Citroen BX, especially around town. Great high speed cruiser and economical with it.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? No

Review Date: 9th March, 2004

1987 Renault 25 V6 2.7 V6 from Denmark

Summary:

An exceptional car if you can afford the repairs

Faults:

The electronics of the automatic gearbox failed making up-shifts unpredictable and down-shifts all too frequent.

Disc-brakes all round worn out at about 190,000 km.

General Comments:

It is an excellent car which is only let down by its automatic gearbox and very expensive service and repair.

It is by far the most comfortable car I have ever driven.

Once after having driven 1,200 km I got out of it totally relaxed and already wanting to drive again.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 10th May, 2002

2nd Jul 2002, 02:32

I totally agree with all of your comments. The 25V6 I owned was extremely comfortable, quiet and elegant also. The big soft leather seats also made it a pleasure to drive long distances. The transmission was also a major let down point for me. The transmission on mine completely blew up after 150000 miles.

Phil

Whangarei, New Zealand.

6th Mar 2009, 04:50

The automatic transmission of the R25 V6 was a very old one, reused from the R30 and was itself only a carry-over of the one invented for the R16TA in 1969... Of course not exactly what should have been needed with the V6!

Most R25s here have a diesel or turbo-diesel engine: very reliable!

6th Mar 2009, 05:25

The 8v petrol ones are OK as well.