I must point out a WRX (MY01+) would not beat a Cupra R... the WRX's are to slow and heavy these days and are not what they used to be. But I agree about the S4... they are seriously quick motors.
Data from www.parkers.co.uk
Subaru WRX Turbo.
0-60 mph: 5.7 s.
Seat Leon Cupra R 225.
0-60 mph: 6.7 s.
No, no no.
Further to the comment above regarding the all important 0-60: yes, the scooby will be quicker due to the extra 2 wheel drive traction, but don't forget once your moving it's all about 30-100 (how many corners do you go into and STOP). Then consider weight and driver ability. The Leon Cupra R is a great car (unmolested/modified) plus you don't stand out like a sore thumb as you would in a WRX.
Blimey that obviously hit a nerve :-(
I still stand by my comments though, a standard WRX or S4 driven properly will beat a standard Cupra R, no question.
Whatever you "claim" to have owned or driven, the facts speak for themselves. Go to www.parkers.co.uk for a quick refresher.
Also, German build quality is not what it used to be, and although Seat is now part of VW, it is a Spanish car :-)
I drive a company Mondeo 1.8; slow, ugly and unreliable, so I care not a jot, but as with all things, the numbers speak for themselves.
Okay, so the scooby is 1 second faster on the 0-60, but that's only because of the 4wd, the Cupra R has a real issue with grip off the line. Once both cars are moving, its another matter, so unless you are racing from the lights, a Cupra R is able to beat the WRX tin can!
I'm sorry Cupra owners, I know you're proud of your purchase and you want to be different, but Imprezas ARE in a different class. I own a 54 WRX PPP and I've certainly never been beaten by a Cupra. There are lots of imprezas out there and 1/2 of them won't know you're there, (just going home with shopping) I've raced porsches to 120 and stayed with 'em. An Impreza will beat a Cupra to 100.
Cupra R 53/03
Faults so far:
Cooling fan circuit – fixed under warranty
Front spoiler is too low –I keep scraping it.
Apart from that it is an excellent car, fast and practical for everyday driving. I chose it over an Audi S3 which the same engine (the R has nicer steering and was £7K cheaper) and a WRX (very good, but it is ugly and I have been told by a friend who owned one it only does ~20mpg, vs ~28mpg for the R). I haven't driven an S4 but it's over twice as expensive as the R so that is not a valid comparison. The Seat dealers seem to be pretty good at servicing, more friendly than VW dealers in my experience.
Get a 25 year old Mini, bolt a Yamaha R1 1000cc motorbike engine in the back and hold on for dear life... Can be done for around 7k.
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