31st Dec 2011, 18:36

If it's not the car's or manufacturer's fault, then who's is it?

1st Jan 2012, 01:01

Yes, I will admit that I should have avoided the car. The 1st Gen legacy GT I have owned was one of the best cars I have ever driven. But I think the 2nd Gen GTBs are subpar at best; when the engineers put the spark-plugs in a place you cannot get to without undoing an engine mount, you know that someone must have got something wrong! When buying a Subaru, it's mostly luck as to getting a good one, as most have been driven stop and go in Japan, and thrashed when imported. Was lucky with the 1st one, and unlucky to the point with the second Subaru, that it put me off ever buying another one used.

2nd Jan 2012, 21:19

2nd poster, the person who owned the car and the person who owns the car. At that age, who else would you think?

3rd comment. So you have such an amazing car the first round that you wanted another, but then you end up with problems and now you won't buy another Subaru? That doesn't make sense.

You also don't need to pull any boxer engine from any Subaru, so whoever told you that (or SOLD you that) is full of it.

If you look at consumer ratings, Subaru and Honda are the two top manufactures for both new and used.

Even the comments under yours reflect positive feedback.

I'm sorry to tell you, but it sounds like you bought the car without researching it, and what you got was a car that wasn't looked after.

No one to blame but yourself.

4th Jan 2012, 15:10

The last comment was harsh... just because Subaru and Honda are the top two manufacturers, doesn't mean everything. It doesn't mean they are all excellent. This car proves this point. If they are all fantastic, this owner shouldn't have had to worry too much about the history of the car.

The worse car I have ever brought was a Subaru Legacy with FULL service history and 1 owner. Very unreliable, and not really good at anything other than drinking fuel.

However, the best car I have brought was a 5 owner Volvo S60 with NO service history, This hasn't missed a beat and is fantastic. However, I now expect a load of comments saying how the Japanese cars are best and the Volvo is rubbish. Afraid not, chaps - I know better, and my car proves it!

5th Jan 2012, 22:33

So let me get this straight, on a 15 year old car with average miles, when the CV boots, fuel pump, motor mounts, coil packs and wheel bearings all fail, it is the current or past owner's fault, even though each and every one of the parts mentioned will fail on any car, no matter how well it is maintained, let alone the fact that Subarus are garbage to begin with.

6th Jan 2012, 19:08

Look, I am aware that most of the parts I mentioned wear on any car, but each and every part I had to replace, turned out to be 3X the price of a normal Japanese car part. I only mentioned my personal experience with owning this vehicle, I am sure there are some looked after GTB's out there that would have no problems. These cars are commonly thrashed all their life (especially since the 2nd turbo only comes in at 6k), so it's probably best to avoid them.

7th Jan 2012, 14:52

What are you talking about? I was replying to 21:19, who stated that it's the owners fault and not the car's fault, and they are wrong.

Also, I do agree with you about these cars, it's best to avoid them.

8th Jan 2012, 00:49

Bottom line is, either buy a 1st generation GT or an earlier 2nd generation GT. The extra horsepower is not worth the cost on a GTB, that's for sure.

7th Oct 2012, 22:43

You must have been doing some things seriously wrong by the sounds of it. To think you have to remove the engine in order to change the spark plugs is just insane. I changed the spark plugs in mine (with no mechanical experience) in a couple of hours by myself, with no issues whatsoever.

24th Mar 2013, 15:24

Let me get this straight.... you removed the engine to replace the spark plugs?? They take 30 minutes at the most to replace, and you certainly do NOT need to remove the engine.

16th Mar 2015, 09:13

I bought a 98 Legacy 2.0L GT new in New Zealand, and I have 320,000 km and it has been a great runner. Always serviced, but it has had a pretty hard life up and down mountains. My mechanic thinks it's a great car, and it's not because he doesn't have to do any work on it.

17th Mar 2015, 17:58

Yes, for this particular configuration with the boxer engine, the engine needs to be removed for proper access to the spark plug banks.