13th Nov 2005, 13:52

Do a search of the last five years on many vehicle makes, they all seem to be slipping. Very sad that I can't buy a new car for fear it will fall apart.

16th Nov 2005, 09:08

I don't think the problem is with the car, but the dealer. I can't imagine why you would go back to the same place 5 times.

Lowell Nigoff

22nd Nov 2005, 00:32

Good one, dealer boy. Do you think that idea has crossed the owner's mind by now? I would've hoped so by checkup 3.

Maybe the next closest Toy dealer is a few hours away? It's not impossible.

24th Nov 2005, 08:44

Finally a Dealer that has the guts to respond on some of these postings :o)

I have read many and noticed that along with the faults a car my have the biggest headache is the different dealers and the way they give advice or do repair jobs.

I really don't like to go to them for any service. My worst experience was the day I wanted to get a diagnostic on a faulty traction control on my Olds Aurora. They told me that I should NOT repair it, the better choice would be to trade it in and simply getting another car!!! On the long run it would be cheaper for me...well, that dealer died right there in front of me. Actually I sold that car later and got another one - from another lot of course.

A dealer has only one thing in mind - selling cars! If they do repairs, usually selling you expensive spare parts and charging horrendous labor hours!

No more dealers for me...

7th Jan 2006, 11:16

Toyotas aren't made for high speeds?

13th Jan 2006, 23:27

I know my, my Toyota Camry is so slow. One time, I tried to get in front of a truck, when I got in front of him he almost hit me, because the Camry was going so slow. They are not built for speed.Maryland.

16th May 2006, 08:24

Did the dealer even bother to test drive the car in the exact same conditions that you experienced the problem? They definitely should do this, but if not, insist that you go with them to diagnose the problem. Once they "get it" and admit there even is a problem, they will have fix it under warranty.

I don't know what's wrong with Toyota dealers, but my Mazda dealer will bend over backwards for my needs.

6th Jun 2006, 09:51

Dealers are independent business people who are in the business to make a profit. It doesn't matter if one sells Toyota's or another sells Fords, they all have the same focus in mind.

You, the customer, can make a choice. The car buying experience goes beyond merely choosing a make and model, it includes every aspect of the purchase that affects the buying experience.

High volume high pressure dealers are an indication of their mission statement. "Profit before anything else"! Just like the car, you get what you pay for when choosing a dealership.

Traditionally, the dealers parts and service departments operate on incentives. If the dealers management could generate more profit by purposely avoiding your concerns and by treating you badly, they would. And in some instances, this is the case.

So, if you spent as much time evaluating the dealer as you did the car then perhaps you'd look at other makes and models with a different bias. Just remember, the dealer wants your money, nothing else.

7th Jul 2006, 20:34

Our 05 Camry does the same shaking on highway too, around 120km/h one can feel the slight shaking/vibration from the steering wheel, but not really a big deal, and my dad didn't notice at all.

8th Jul 2006, 11:00

I agree with many of the other comments, your Dealer is the biggest of your 3 problems. I am an automotive technician. Many clients I have spoken to have made disparaging comments about Toyota dealership service. I am of the opinion that because of Toyota's reputation for manufactured quality, it makes Dealers lazy in handling after sale issues. I live in an area where there are no less than 5 Toyota dealerships in a 25 mile radius, only 1 of the five meets normal customer expectations, by general word of mouth reputation. As to the problem with the shaking of your vehicle at high speeds, change to another brand of tires, (or better yet, have a dealer's service dept. do it), see if this solves your problem. In my experience, 80% of high speed steering instability is attributed to the tires, or possibly the wheel itself.

12th Jul 2006, 08:54

I've previously had two Camrys and a Sienna, and I now have a Camry and a hybrid Highlander. Never had a problem with the product or with the service.

I agree that the selection of a dealer is critical, but there's no question in my mind about the excellent quality of the Toyota product.

10th Aug 2006, 22:30

Toyota dealerships are a joke in the customer service department. I learned that the hard way when I owned 3 Camrys in the past, and dealt with 5 different dealerships across 3 states. Most Camrys out there are LEMONS (and I think they purposefully rig the Check Engine light to come on every few thousand miles or so, or they just don't care enough to treat the problem correctly, AND additionally, most Camrys out there have horrible transmission engines). Why has this model been such a hot seller since it first debuted is beyond me. But, never will I give these lying thieves my business ever again. It'll be Hondas or other brands for me from last year on.

11th Aug 2006, 15:59

WHAT!? You said MOST Camrys are lemons. Are you crazy, on drugs, or both? You are talking about one of the best-selling, most reliable cars ever made. I can't speak as to the quality of Toyota's service department, because I have never seen the inside of one even after owning 3 Toyotas. You might have had a lemon, but to say MOST of them are lemons is ridiculous.

11th Aug 2006, 18:07

Based on people's reports, I'd say that Toyota does indeed have lemons (like any other manufacturer) but I don't think MOST of them are lemons. I think most of them are quite good actually.

12th Aug 2006, 20:28

Camry overall is a nice car. The only problem is that it is extremely slow with the 4 cylinder. They need to put a V6 standard in such a large car. I think the local transit buses would give a I4 camry a good run for it's money. lol.

18th Oct 2006, 10:23

Even with the V-6 the Camry is terribly slow. Over the years Toyota has gone soft on both quality and reliability. When a highly biased magazine, such as Car and Driver, rates the Camry dead last in a comparison of it with the Ford Fusion, Hyundai Sonata and the (GROSSLY OVER-RATED) Honda Accord, you know there is a real problem. I have never owned a Camry, but my wife and I did test drive the Highlander SUV before buying our last SUV. The Highlander has the same terribly underpowered V-6 as the Camry, and we were literally terrified trying to merge onto a freeway with the thing. My wife was literally bending the floor board trying to get more speed up, but we barely managed to get up to 50mph by the end of the ramp. My 4-cylinder American-made compact will easily hit 75mph by the end of that same freeway ramp. That type of performance is not just bad, it is downright dangerous. We ran as fast as we could to another dealership and bought something that had a REAL engine,.