1993 Toyota Estima Lucida 2.2 turbo diesel from UK and Ireland
Anti roll bushes (easy inexpensive job) - MPV1
Anti roll connection rods (easy inexpensive job) - MPV2.
Bottom ball joints (easy job, but at a cost of £40 each) - MPV1.
SADS (£50 a pair and half a day of sweating) - MPV2.
Cracked cylinder head (£700'ish for replacement; head gaskets are extra and about the same for fitting. Considering these MPV's can be had for around £1000, it writes the vehicle off in my opinion) - MPV2.
Alternator (around £120 and half a day sweating) - MPV2.
Exhaust tail pipe/back box (around £80 easy job) - MPV1.
As you can see by the list, the Lucida can be a bit of a money pit, but this is over 2 Lucida Estimas. I've called each MPV MPV1 and MPV2 respectively, so you can see what jobs had been done to each vehicle.
MPV1 was owned for 2 years, and as you can see from the list was quite reliable and was kept on the road for not a lot of money.
MPV2 on the other hand was a different story; all together I owned this one for less than 4 months before the cracked head showed its ugly head.
Apparently this is a common fault with the mid engined 2.2 ltr turbo diesel engine (some say a design fault).
The vehicle (MPV2) had done less than 80.000 miles.
I have had 2 of these Estimas, so I will comment on them both in one review.
The first one I bought (MPV1) was quite a reliable vehicle with only the usual running parts needing replacing. There was a bit of a jerk as it engaged 2nd gear (auto box), but apart from that it drove very well.
Another one (MPV2) came along at a very good price, and in much better condition less miles etc.. so I decided to sell MPV1 and buy MPV2.
The previous owner had spent a small fortune on it, having the timing belt, water pump, water pipes, exhaust and other bits replaced not long before he decided to sell.
We got it home OK (over 300 miles) with no overheating or water loss problems, so all seemed fine.
After a thorough inspection, I found it needed SADS, anti roll bar bushes and link bars replacing, and the alternator wasn't pushing the right voltage out so I replaced them.
It behaved itself for a couple of months, but there was a bit of a niggle about a clunk when you set off from standstill. This turned out to be the top stabiliser bar bushes on the back axle allowing the axle to twist while braking, and spring back into place when you let go of the brake after stopping.
Then the overheating began.
The cost of repairs outweighs the cost of the vehicle; it basically writes it off.
If you get a good one with no overheating problems, you should get years of relatively trouble free driving, but a mechanic who does nothing but Estimas once told me it's not IF the head cracks, it's WHEN, and there's no pattern to how it happens.
It seems a bit like a game of Russian roulette with your money when purchasing one, so be careful if you are thinking of buying.
Would I buy another Lucida Estima??
Would I buy another Toyota??
I did, but a Toyota Granvia with none of the problems above.
Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes
Review Date: 8th November, 2009
1st Jun 2011, 07:59
My Toyota Estima Lucida has done 221402 kms.
I have had this van for just over 2 years now.
P reg 2.2td.
The only thing that has gone wrong is the front brakes. The back box, just have new cam belt fitted. I have changed the glow plugs.
All I do to my Toyota is put a diesel cleaner in the tank now and again.
I think they are great, we need a van because we had triplets. They just need TLC.