The Toyota 20V is a lot quicker than the XSI / SiR Integra's at higher speeds, and marginally quicker down low.
Good engine; but they seem to consume oil for no apparent reason & blow 'black' smoke at higher RPM due to the ECU running the engine rich to protect the engine. VVT Pulley's are generally quite noisy and the gearbox lacks the precision you would expect in a sportier car.
Very lacking at low RPM and it could do with a lot more torque availible at lower RPM.
Overall a good car, great value for money.
I've owned both a 20 Valve Levin and a SiR Civic, both factory standard and the Civic is definitely quicker. The Civic would do 0-100 in just under 8 seconds and nearly 9 for the Levin. The civic loves to run to the red line and sounds great, however the Levin fades at high revs. Both are great cars though and virtually bulletproof, buy one!
The stock Civic SiR on does 0-60 mph in 7 - 7.5 seconds (depending on shift). 1/4 mile in 15.7.
The stock ae111 Levin does 0-60 mph in 8.5 - 9 seconds (depending on shift). 1/4 mile in 16.9.
I have owned both a DOHC vtec Civic, and a 20v bz-g, and the Levin is ever so slightly quicker, but there really isn't much in it.
The Toyota is a much better car by comparison.
I've owned a VTEC Honda, and currently own a 20v Levin. I personally have found the Levin to be way better! =) In a straight line my Levin has taken on cars I'd never expect to beat, but somehow have got ahead LOL.
I found the Levin to understeer quite a bit at the limit, but driven carefully at high speeds it handles very well. My 0-100 has been calculated to around 6.9 sec, a bit up on stock.
My ride is very hard! A bit too hard on most roads. Does anyone know how the super strut suspension should feel??? I know it will be sporty and hard, but mine is completely stiff! Haha.
I'm thinking of swapping my 96 4G92 Lancer Mivec for a 96 Levin BZG 20v black top.
I'm very unfamiliar with the Levins. It's had a BZR manifold for a newer model added to it. Firstly is that OK for it to have the manifold from the BZR, is it just bolt on?
Also are they powerful enough to stick you to the seat? My Mivec is completely stock apart from a larger cool air intake, dyno proven at 174 BHP. It takes off from standing still at 5100 RPM with only a small wheel spin, and hits 0-60mph in just under 7 seconds.
Is it worth the swap?
Great car very quick for 1600cc, and is noticeably quicker than the 1991 GT Apex Levin with a silvertop motor.
The Levin is a great car; go for the top spec BZR. The suspension is supposed to be very stiff, this is what gives it such great cornering, at the cost of comfort. Buy a standard Corolla or a couch if you want to be comfortable :P This is a sporty car!
The Integra Type Rs etc obviously have the advantage as they are 1.8L and more advanced technology; Levins and Civics are pretty even, but the edge usually goes to the Levin.
The Mivec Lancer is most likely faster at 174bhp, where the BZR or BZG Levin puts out between 155 and 165. But the Levin dominates all competition in terms of looks and the all around driving package. Love my BZR :)
I've owned a AE111 BZ-G Trueno for about 2 years now; when I got it the engine had about 160k on the clock. It was pretty fast in that state. It could beat most other cars in the same class/cc. I spent quite a bit of money and had the engine and gearbox (c56) fully rebuilt. The only thing it has that's aftermarket is an exhaust system.
After the "refresh" it was far quicker then any other 4 cylinders it's ever chased; even most 6 cylinders can't pull away till I let up on the gas.