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The headliner was not properly re-mounted after some PDR(Paintless Dent Repair) work due to hail damage, causing annoying rattling.
Handles extremely well at all speeds.
Rapidly accelerates with ease at any speed, however most of this car's speed and torque is found in the 5500-8000 RPM mark, an attribute that most feel uncomfortable with.
The clutch is very forgiving of new or unexperienced drivers, but packs a strong punch for the serious drivers.
The 1.6L 4cyl engine is produces 160HP. Many overlook the fact that the Horsepower to pound ratio for the Civic is much lower than that of of any other car, which is why so much power can be produced from such a small engine.
The 2000 Civic Si is a great car to buy. You get the trademark reliability of Honda, the driving comfort of a Lexus and the power of a much more expensive sports sedan at a very reasonable price.
"The 1.6L 4cyl engine is produces 160HP. Many overlook the fact that the Horsepower to pound ratio for the Civic is much lower than that of of any other car, which is why so much power can be produced from such a small engine"
I don't get how the weight of a car can change how much *power* can be produced from an engine.
Power to weight ratio is overrated, and typically used by anyone who has a car that is slow, yet weighs less than other cars. The car may "feel" fast, but some of that can be attributed to the noise the engine makes at high revs.
Ya, I agree that the reviewer's comment about power to weight ratio makes no sense and has nothing to do with the output of the engine. Comparing the HP output per liter (size of the engine) will show how well designed the engine is, but you comparing HP to weight has nothing to do with the engine. And yes, HP to wieght is usually overated. I drive a Trans Am which weighs in excess of 3000 pounds... but I can still do 0-60 in 5 flat.
If you fools were right my vr6 passat would be every bit as fast as a vr6 gti, but ITS NOT!it weighs 400lbs more and because of that it is a slower car. what that reviewer said makes perfect sense. try dropping your v8 in a go cart and then tell me weight doesn't make a car perform differently.
Just to let you guys know, weight does make a HUGE difference in a car's power. Why else do you think these kids buy hatchbacks and CRX's to do engine swaps in??? Just imagine your Trans Am weighing as much as a civic... it would roll! Not only that, but the DOHC VTEC in the Si makes a big difference too. Without that VTEC kicking in at 5500RPM, the car wouldn't be as quick as it is. I have a 2000 Civic Si, and it's by far a slow car. You can build a B16A2-stock Si- motor to run with those Trans Am's, and smoke them!
The power to weight ratio is only looked at if a true mind of a racer is trying to get the specs of the car because most of you little chevy/ford boys don't know squat bout real performance. I have an Si an my friend has a Si engine in his crx wich weighs 400 pounds less than mine which means his b16 only has to push 2.1k pounds while ur v8s push twice as much weight. so you wanna test power to weight then try pushin a fat guy up a hill. then try a small guy.
Although I'm just researching the newer Si, I must agree. My 1990 CRX Si has a SOHC, with every bolt on, deleted AC so it weighs about 2k lbs. or less. I put in a custom sunroof replacement made from plexiglass and have removed some plastic and metal that was not needed in the rear (you cannot tell though from looking cuz it looks stock). Needless to say, the car is lighter and even with a slipping clutch traffic seems to disappear behind me.
Lol I was just looking the specs up on a si as I smoked one tonight. Get a 5000-6000$ mr2 mkII with gen3 3sgte 245lb hp 220lb tq stock then slap on a boost controller and an exhaust and some other small things on and your well over 300hp and light. The civics look nice and all and some are insanely fast, but to get there you have to spend gobs on a new motor and all and the fact that they have almost no tourqe is not to my liking. I just think its terrible with the kids around here buying 10,000 honda civics then spending 3,000 for new motor and installation b18 I think they call it?? And put a 50 shot on and still get smoked other than that honda is a pretty nice car.
OK, more on the power to weight ratio.
A single cylinder 50cc moped pushing all of 15 horses can smoke (quarter-mile in 19 seconds) a 1792-cubic-inch V-12 M1 tank that pushes 1500 horses (quarter-mile in 32.1 seconds at 38.8 mph) This is because the horsepower to weight ratio of the M1 is 22hp/ton, compared to about (assuming a 200 lbs rider) ~40hp/ton for the moped.
While there are of course other differences between the two vehicles, generally the higher the horsepower to weight ratio, the faster the acceleration.
(Yeah, I know torque is in there somewhere, but let's assume that torque and horsepower are within certain limits to one another)
If you want to compare cars, please take a look at the Caterham 7 superlight (4cyl 2litre) that outguns a Lamborghini Diablo (V12 I believe)
One more thing.
It's either fast or it's not.
Too often ricer boys boast about how fast/light/powerful their hatchback is only to moan "but he had a V8 in his" once they loose a street race. Cork it, please, no one cares whether you have a lawn-mover engine in your go-cart or a v12 in your transport truck. It's either fast or it's not.
Power and Weight ratios are very very important... any one who believes otherwise needs to take a physics class. That's all I gotta say.
Power to weight ratios are very important especially with honda engines w/o any torque!
Take a look at the 1990 crx 16 vtec 150 bhp it could accelerate faster then a ek civic 160 bhp.
Of course power to weight matters. as everybody knows, hondas have no torque what-so-ever. I have a 2000 civic si, but I still hang and eventually pass all those clowns in their mustangs. the key is in managing your money, time, and weight. I have performed my own upgrades myself and have reduced weight where it counts. I don't go on uphill races, because where I live it's all pretty much flat land. I chose the si because it works for me. I did all my homework before I even bought the car! so when I bought it I new exactly what to do and what to expect. my little four banger is naturally aspirated and I still whoop the sh*t out of those FORD mules. (lol) how is that? I have all the right parts for my car and nothing else. and yes it is a sleeper. because if they could see what was in my car, they wouldn't even try to race me.
Well I have to agree with people that think that civic si (si,so) has no torque. There is this kid in my high school class that thinks an si(si,so) can beat a 2003 jetta vr6. I hate civics because they are want a bees Integra's cause I smoked all civics with my gsr integra and I raced Jettas and jettas can shure smoke weak civics.
That last comment made absolutely no sense.
Hi all. Just read this. I have to say that since having 2 civics, a UK spec 1600vtec and a VTi b18 engine, the cars are made to be revved and the pace does diminish at low levels. It is quick don't get me wrong, but even with a 8sec 0-60mph time there are plenty of cars that can push vtec engines. I love them, but I would not go willingly against an Audi TT 225hp.!! as my frend has. Which would put most American cars to shame anyway. The civic is good which has a lot to do with the whole engine package. there will always be better and quicker cars, but wot do you want in a car. Hp, weight and speed are all interconnected. that's obvious. But don't write a Honda off. And european vw's are driven by pensioners too...
Civics are slow and have no in gear acceleration to speak of.