28th Oct 2011, 16:44

Well 17:50, if almost good enough cuts it for you, then great. For those of us that want the best, a mediocre "me too mobile" just doesn't cut it. I know I for one will be moving to SUV's from now on. The new "large" and mid-size cars are just not anything I would ever want to spend hard earned money on.

31st Oct 2011, 13:39

Yes, but in the full sized cars, you can actually see the hood when you are driving. I haven't seen a hood or hood ornament when driving in decades!

I may have to mount a rubber duck on a stick...