10th Feb 2017, 09:45

Well then buy a late model limo. Amazing how affordable they are used. I have owned nearly every body style. The limo is true luxury for passengers. Even a high top conversion van with exceptional rear seating on trips. The seats are outstanding. I was just in some new ones at the Philadelphia Car Show last week. On a trip, stretch out and enjoy the flat screen.

17th Feb 2017, 14:36

The Northstar wasn't so great either.