1985 Toyota Celica Supra P-type 2.8 litre 5MGE

Summary:

Beloved by all who've owned one, envy of those who don't

Faults:

Body rot was the main issue, it's a Toyota after all. When purchased it had typical 80s Japanese car rust. Not enough to make the car unsafe (body wise we'll get to the good bit later), but just enough to make the vehicle look like it belonged in a scrap yard (looking back it definitely did).

This will be a long list, but keep in mind the car is 40 years old as of posting this.

- Starting at the front, the fog lamps rusted out due to a poor design as the rear housings are made from metal with glass lenses.

- The hood had a small hole on the underside from rust.

- The front fenders had body rot on the bottoms near the doors.

- The rubber trim was poorly designed, being made of metal with a rubber coating, resulting in limp tubes filled with rust debris, very stylish.

- The front windshield frame was also extensively rusty, most likely from a poor windshield replacement from decades prior. This led to plenty of leaks near the front seats. After removing the windshield to repair the rust, I found a large hole in the frame in front of the VIN plate.

- Sunroof had a small hole under the rubber seal which luckily did not leak.

- Two large patches of rust in the door jam, one near the top door hinge, one below where the seal sat, probably likely due to the hole below the windshield mentioned earlier.

- Small hole in rear passenger footwell.

- Rocker panels were toast near the rear wheels, typical spot; the car was likely driven in winter for many years.

- Rear wheel wells and fenders were rotten around the wheel arch and near the bottom of the car, as well as large holes on the inside of the car coming through the top of the wheel well. This resulted in a few relays on the inside of the fender for the headlamp and interior lamps being corroded and not functioning.

- Fuel tank had a few pin holes as well, but not match for a quick smear of JB Weld.

- Lastly the spare wheel area had a few holes in it as well.

All of these spots were difficult to repair as replacement panels are unobtanium and I had to fabricate my own from scratch. With them all welded in and smoothed over, the body is looking ship shape again.

Next part: leaks. The entire engine leaks, from the cam tower seals all the way down to the oil pan gasket. I have yet to fix this as the leakage is not too bad.

The brakes needed new rubber flex lines installed due to dry rot. Once that was squared away I had to rebuild the front right brake caliper due to it dragging, and both rear calipers due to them being seized. All 4 were rebuilt as new or remanufactured (once are again unobtanium). Lastly was a new master cylinder. This was my fault as I damaged the OEM one which worked perfectly.

Transmission whines over exactly 108 km/h up to 127 km/h, although I'm told by other owners that the W58 transmission just does this on its own.

All 4 speakers and the sub woofer were completely blown out, a quick but annoying fix.

Again the headlamp control relay and interior lamp relay were water damaged and corroded from the rusted body panels. I managed to get one repaired at an appliance repair shop, but the other was fubar. Once again a difficult part to find. I can live without interior lights for now.

The wipers are very slow and so are the window motors.

The biggest problem was that the car's rear suspension was destroyed from corrosion and as such the vehicle was undriveable. The two semi trailing arms were cracked in half due to rust and needed replacing. I was able to source and install new ones, but not without a long dusty battle grinding and cutting the old rusted ones out.

General Comments:

I need to mention that despite the list of egregious deterioration due to age, poor maintenance, and plethora of smaller issues, the car always started, drove, shifted, stopped, and idled.

When I purchased the vehicle it honestly should have been on its way to a smelter, yet when I turned the key it cranked twice and fired. It idled as quietly and smoothly as it would have on the showroom floor, hell it drove down my street on broken suspension parts and parked nicely in my driveway where it sat for months while I repaired it. I had a shop replace the brake hoses as mentioned earlier and it made a 600+ km trip through the mountains without any faults when I moved. And once its body was repaired and I fixed most of the issues it did another 1200 km road trip no problem at all (except when the radiator hose burst, but forget I said that).

All-in-all, the car is a testament to Toyota's quality. I've been amazed how well it's held it together given its condition. Sure it's not the fastest with only 160 hp, but unlike the odd drip of oil, none of those horses have escaped the engine, you put the hammer down and she'll pull away. You can light up BOTH tires with the still functioning limited slip differential. Throttle response is excellent for such an early EFI. Even on chopped springs the ride was smooth but still sporty. Fuel economy could be better, but you don't buy a Supra to hypermile after all. I will never get rid of this car. Of the ones I've owned it is by far my favourite. Ask any old timer who's owned one from way back and every one will tell you they regret getting rid of theirs. I will certainly not make their mistake.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 24th January, 2024

1985 Toyota Celica Hatchback 2.4

Summary:

Best car out there!!!

Faults:

Well I bought this car for 400 bucks, it had sat for 2 and half years, but it did run.

The tank had rust, so I cleaned that out, after putting in 100 bucks to get it running.

After that it's a solid car, but it had a leak, and now I have to rebuild the engine. Does have some rust on the hatch, but it's not that big.

General Comments:

It handles freakin' amazing.

This is my very first car that I bought and put it my name. It's always started, I drive over 100 miles per day, and it's never let me down.

It's fast, I raced many Hondas and always won, the RWD is great on turns, and you have more control when you are driving.

I upgraded the stereo and speakers, I've been replacing the inside parts to make it look better, but I love this car.

Now I'm getting ready to rebuild the engine and rebuild everything in the car. Can't wait to be driving my baby again, it's the best car I have ever owned, and I will keep this car my whole life. I would tell anyone to buy this car, it's worth the money.

Would you buy another car from this manufacturer? Yes

Review Date: 12th December, 2011

13th Dec 2011, 13:51

Every parents nightmare - the thought that their child might be off somewhere racing around in a 25 year old car with over 200,000 miles on it - or racing around in any car for the matter.

My suggestion is to give up cars and walk - the roads will be safer for ALL of us if you did.