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I've got a mk2 saxo vtr with induction kit straight through magnex exhaust decat and superchip, as far as handling its been slammed 100mm and no fiesta z tec can touch me.
I have owned three Ford Fiestas in the past, but this time I bought a Citroen Saxo. No it's not down to performance, or looks, it's down to that four letter word, "RUST". Every Fiesta I have owned has had a serious rust problem by the time it got past five years old, and by the time it gets to nine year old it's fit only for the scrapyard. Citroen however galvanize their vehicles, and offer a twelve year anti-corrosion warranty. No wonder more and more people are turning away from Ford, to cars with better build quality, like Citroen, Peugeot, Fiat, and Renault.
To be honest the saxo is not really that impressive. try a xr2i or rs turbo in good condition these cars are much better and are 4 something else they look better and are classic cars that set the standards way ahead of their time the handling is superb get bmuch more looks
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Both the xr2 and rs turbo have terrible handling.
Wow, these hot hatch wars sound fun. I'm 18 years old and am lookin for a nippy little motor for uni, budget is about 3.5k and insurance is an issue, so a VTS is a no-no for me. Wanted a yaris T sport, but too much money second hand, so none of that. I'm left with the Zetec-S and VTR, both of which I really like. I've driven both and I reckon the Ford might have the edge in handling, though the Saxo is a little ripper, too. Both are a different drive. Saxo possibly quicker (very close), though the Ford is alright in a straight, Top Gear (or another mag, can't remember which one) actually squeezed 9.9 seconds out of it if I remember correctly, but the VTR is still nippier, if only just. Ford better quality, Saxo much prettier shape.
Oh I don't know... may just look out for the best deal on them, can't really choose! Two great cars IMO. cheers.
I've owned the VTR for over a year now. For what it is and the price you pay it's a nice quick and nibble little car. Servicing is cheap, fuel consumption is lovely and maintence is excellent.
My only bash with the car is the driver side window. The clips to hold it in snapped twice while under warranty and again last week now its out of warranty. I've booked it in next week to get fixed by citroen, but have no idea if they will charge me for it.
But I'm getting bored of the car now as its not quick enough so I've entered into the Fiesta ST market.
But for those who are looking to buy a VTR because your young and insurance won't touch you on anything faster then go for it.
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I think the Fiesta Zetec S and the VTR are both good cars. The performance of the VTR is slightly better in terms of speed, but the handling on the Fiesta is far better in my opinion. I own a Zetec S and love it, there is no need to slate them.
My mate has a Zetec S and a have a VTR. We havn't raced from the lights or anything, but on the main roads there is literally no difference in performance that I can see. I know the figures say the VTR is faster, but I think they are pretty much exactly the same. The Zetec handles better as it has those nice low profile tyres where as the Saxo has those... bigger ones...which really don't do it justice.
As for the looks, it's a matter of personal preference. I like the VTR's looks, he likes the Fiesta's. I suppose the Fiesta wins on build quality though...heh.
I agree there is no need to slate both cars over and over the bottom line is.
DO you like the car???
It's a simple answer of YES OR NO its just the same as saying.
Do you like BMW or Mercedes see my point...
I will have to state tho my bro is in a Toyota Supra 3.0 non turbo and he won't race me in my VTR on the back roads for he knows I can get way faster speeds on corners.. on a motorway I'm left standing sucking my dummy in my mouth hahaha.
Plus points.
VTR replacement parts are cheap...
I have so many mates who are jealous of the fact they have a saxo 1.1,1.4 and I'm in a VTR so my street cread is way higher.
Bad points.
Seats look aweful I have put blue seat covers over mine to make them look some what nicer to the eyes.
Steering wheel is to low I'm 5ft 7inch and even I would prefer the wheel to be a little higher.
Suspension hmm what can I say not all that great, but
I thought the point of having a car is to feel the car as in road surface bumps etc etc this way you feel more alive then having a car which you can't feel no bumps etc etc hence why the saxo is so much fun and is compared to a go-kart.
All this rubbish about foot pedals I had the car for a week and had already forgot about the position of the pedals its simple don't nock it unless you have tried it for more than a week or so. you can't say a car is great from taking it on a 1 hour test drive that is not enought time IMO you have to go out on different roads and really give it a run for its money...
Zetec-s I love the car, but I ignore it TBH my mate has a Focus-ST and I keep up with him pritty easily so if I can keep up with him then a Zetec-s aint gonna be a problem...
And since no one stated it ITS ALL ABOUT THE DRIVER HIMSELF
you may have a great car VTR or Zetec-s, but you may drive like a nutter and don't know how to drive if your life depended onit you may only be driving good enought to stay on the road for all you know PLUS these are road cars not racing track cars so why not keep it that way then you know we are all safe on the road and not putting anyone or ourselfs at risk... tho I have done some racing in my time I make sure the weather is OK to do so and its at a time of day when you know there won't be loads of cars about, but even then you can't tell how the roads will be so you are taking a risk in just that alone...
Overall.
Saxo VTR/VTS 9.5 out a 10 (not because I have one its the fact its cheap good insurance and is nippy for in cities and good on back winding roads),great street cread even as a bog standard car it turns heads to this day and pulls in the ladies left right and centre. same car as a 106 so parts are easy to buy and are cheap.
Zetec-s 8.5 out a 10 lacks the looks of a saxo, interior is way better gear box is not as good as a VTR's not as much fun as a Saxo street cread is lower then a VTR, but good point is its not one a car thief would go for they would go for a saxo any day to steal and the Zetec-s does not have the brand name of a CHAVS car to it which the saxo does.
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You should all stop arguing about which is better. The only reason Citroen sold any Saxo's is that they gave them away for pennies and gave a year's free insurance. Ford build quality and handling is vastly superior. I have just got rid of a Citroen Xsara VTS and can tell you I will never buy another Citroen as long as I live. I had the car from brand new and in 3 years and 50,000 miles it has spent almost as many days in the workshop as it has on the road. The door trims fell off, it needed a whole new ECU at a cost of £800 the service from Citroen was crap and they expectewd me to pay for repairs even though the car had a full service history from the main dealer.
I now have a Ford Focus ST which handles 100 times better that the Xsara ever did, looks better and after 18,000 trouble free miles has still to let me down.
Get out of the way Citroen your cars are rubbish.
Poeple will always argue which is better, because each person has a different opinion.
Although I think almost anyone would take the ST over the Xsara VTS.
I own a mk 1 vtr that I have had for over a year now and I love it, yea I've had an issue with the door cards and yea the speakers are rubbish and have been upgraded, but with a couple of mods the car is quick, turns heads, pulls well in all gears, has sporty seats, simple, but nice interior. it's a great all rounder.
I'm thinking of upgrading to a vts as nowadays you can pick up a bargin!
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I have owned my Saxo VTR limited edition for about 5 months now! I must say, when I first got in to the car, I was stunned, thought I would never drive such a nippy car, that actually pulled me back in to my seat. As for the fiesta Zetec, I haven't actually raced one, but they do look o. k I suppose, nothing compared to the Fiesta ST. My only problem with the VTR is the fuel consumption. If you want to get 400 miles to a full tank, then you have to drive at about 50-60mph, everywhere. If you ever want to drop it from 4th to 3rd gear at 70mph, then beware as you will see your fuel stick go down!
Got to comment on the person who started talking like it was personal preference and then went on 4 hours trying to say his vtr was the best.
I'm 17 with a zetec s and I love it, get somany looks pulling into 6th form and it drives well, I'm sure people would say the same about their vtr/vts.
Aslong as your happy with your car who cares?
If you come on here desperately trying to make out your car is better you obviously have doubts about it.
I'm sure if you weighed up the pros on cons the vtr/vts and zetec-s would be pretty much equal.
VTR and Zetec S are both no good. My chipped 2.0 Focus eats them both; it will keep up with a VTS up to about 85, then it pulls ahead. Why am I saying this? Because it's only group 8 insurance; same as a Zetec S, only much faster even in standard form. It also handles better.