Of course its 9.1, that sounds about right even if you didn't know the stats. I've only ever seen 9.1 or 9.2 for the VTR, that's about right for a 1.6i 8v. The nova GSI is a 1.6i 8v and you guessed it... 9.1 to 60, and the nova is even lighter than the saxo so the saxo don't do that bad. The XR2i 1.6i 8v is 8.9 to 60, the 205 1.6i 8v is 8.7 So why would you think this one is 10 and a half seconds. Its never been anything other than 9.1 or 9.2
9.1 is about the right time for a VTR, other 1.6 hot hatches from the 90s have similar times, some better. The VTS with 20 BHP more manages 7.8, that's about right for its power too. The VTR and VTS are not as big and heavy as some modern hatches. 100 BHP for a 90s body VTR is plenty. But 100 BHP is nothing special in todays fat hatches.
All of these facts and figures don't mean anything since they're all just pasted in from the Internet and we all know a load of rubbish gets published, some of your comments for example. So if anyone hasn't got a comment that they've pasted off of the Internet to share it would be appreciated.
Ha ha a 1.1 quicker than a vts is that after the use of nitrous oxide, it's all about the power-weight ratio, and nothing else.
I sure a lot of cars will be running on hydrogen powered fuel cells by then, which ain't a bad thing.
The Saxo's arn't yet at Nova standard. The oldest Saxo you can get is 1996 and that's only 10 years old.
All this quoting number of valves, bhp, power to weight, looks like most of you guys have no clue what you are talking about.
Most days I am driving a Saab 96 v4, a 36 year old car with a few choice suspension mods and always lose the modern hatches in the twisty bits.
People just don't know how to drive anymore. Corners are the fun, straight line acceleration? Why? Anyone can put their foot down and change gear quickly. Try entering a corner heel toe on the brake and clutch and change down 4th to 3rd?
I'm not a boy racer, I'm 31 and drive an STI, but I can't understand this restating of what boyracers are like, by people who think they are so much better. So you didn't have a small car cheap on insurance when you were in your early driving years then? You didn't talk about it like it was your pride and joy? We all know what boyracers are like, but it's a natural progression you can't expect anything else. We all drive fast from time to time, have a race, hell I know I do.
I drive a VTR and agree with the above comment. Driving fast in a straight line is easy. Even the slowest of cars can get to high speeds quickly in a straight line. Going round corners fast, and safely, takes a lot of skill and experience. It seems to me that some people assume that their car will go round a corner at any speed, which of course isn't true. You have to understand the car if you no what I mean. And understand what could happen, and what to do when somthing does go wrong.
Also all the talk about 1.4 8v's and 16v's being quicker than each other etc. It mainly depends on the driver.
I made the comment about a certain type of boy racer and their preoccupation with straight-line speed being at odds with how to drive a car properly ie. around corners without crashing every car they own (a comment aimed at a MINORITY of young/older drivers).
To Mr Sti (nice car, by the way) - I'm sorry if my stereotype upset you, but I'd be lying if I said that they don't irritate me... and I was just voicing that irritation. So shoot me!
Yes, I was a 17 year old driver once (33 now) and I didn't drive like a nun either, but I didn't give a toss if my knackered old MG metro wasn't as quick as my mates beefed-up nova, or if my car was about as fashionable as a Ford Model-T, I was too busy driving absolutely anywhere for the sheer thrill of it - quite often by myself without showing-off in front of a crowd - delighting in every aspect of car control I mastered (no matter how slow the car), and getting the best out of the available chassis, gearbox etc, hopefully improving my skills in the process. Especially taking heed of talented and experienced drivers who could teach me a thing or too.
If I ever raced (in a totally non-professional capacity!) it was off the public road (sorry for being boring and not wanting to kill innocent road-users/by-standers). Of course I made mistakes, but I wasn't an arrogant boastful idiot who was more interested in belittling other drivers because they had a slower less fashionable. And no, I don't remember ever being so aggressive toward drivers of other makes of cars as I've witnessed on here - each to their own!
My comment was aimed at the owners - not the cars,anyway! I have respect for all types of cars. Of course I don't have a problem with small 'warm hatches', I just think these people should accept them for what they are... slow!!
The irony is that these people think that it is SO important that other people think they are... fast!! I love some small underpowered cars, so much fun to thrash sometimes. It just annoys me when the whole speed issue is taken totally out of context. On the whole, it just doesn't matter.
That doesn't make me think I'm better (a better driver maybe). Sorry if I sound like an elitist, I'm not - I was just belittling a certain type of chav boy racer (because their fixation with rubbish 0-60 times/top speeds and slating everybody else's car annoys me. I'm just an OK driver who loves driving in its entirety, and has an opinion, not a superiority complex. I have a different opinion than some. It takes all-sorts. Get over it. (sorry for boring everyone with this)
The VTR is a nice little car: sweet handling and just enough power to make it fun. In fact, as far as I'm concerned, it's not what you drive, but how well you drive it: OK, so you've got chavvy little boy racers with the exhausts hanging off their 1.0L novas, but at the other end of the scale you've got your middle-aged, middle-class bank manager driving like a tool in his shiny new 7-series, cutting up people and thinking he's got a sublime right to overtake you (sorry about the stereotype if you fit this one LOL). So I guess I just hate all types of bad drivers! LOL.
I have a 1.4 Furio, cos I'm young and I like the car. It isn't about racing people.
The car is punchy compared to any of my friend's little cars, and my friend's X reg Clio 1.4 Sport isn't further ahead from me if we're trying. Neither of the drivers are any more competent either.
A car is a car, A to B should matter more than who can get to sixty fastest. Most roads are 30mph anyway, so speed doesn't matter!! The sooner you guys realise life isn't about racing each other, getting it wrong and then requiring an ambulance or a hearse, the better.