Ignition Coils, Ignition Coils, and more Ignition Coils.
Do not buy a Ford Expedition. We have a 2000 with the 4.6 and have had a lot of ignition coil problems. Car has 70,000 miles and have replaced three already, waiting for others to go out anytime. At over $100 each (there are 8) plus labor it is not cheap and ignition coils should not go bad this early. Ford knows about the design problem and is not doing anything about it. Our vehicle was purchased as a certified pre-owned at a Ford dealer and we also opted for the extended warranty which was not cheap. Come to find out that these ignition coils are not covered. This was our first and last Ford product, never again. Will probably look at imports. Poor warranty coverage along with bad design and poor quality, maybe this is why Ford is losing customers to imports. I really wanted to give Ford a shot, but never again. Ford better wake up.
My wife and I are having the same problems with our 2002 Ford Expedition. We bought the car in the fall of 2003. The ignition coils have gone out two times already. Then we found out that the extended warranty does not cover their replacement. So we have paid over $1000 for the coils and the fuel injector to be cleaned out. Somehow there is water getting into the coils, but the Ford dealership doesn't know how it is getting into that area. I will never buy a Ford again.
Same here, my parents needed a car with better gas mileage, so as a good son :-) I let them use my 95 integra, BIG MISTAKE!! ignition coils went bad 3wks after I started using it, and I'm 800 miles away, so I can't just take back my integra. This 00' expedition is the first Domestic car I've borrowed. and never will I buy one. I've wasted over 1k in just one month! and my integra and my supra have over 100k and the only thing I've ever done is regular maint. Unbelievable! Their going this weekend and trading in the
Expedition for a Sequoia!!! Finally they see the light!
F fix
O OR
R repair
D daily.
And you can quote me!
I just took in my 2004 Ford Expedition for its 42,000 mile check up. A week ago, the truck kept jerking while driving- I thought the transmission might be going bad. They ran a diagnostic on it and called me back telling me it's the engine coils. Cost for repair - $400.00. I only have 36,000 miles on it. I am so infuriated with Ford- you have no idea. I am now looking for a Toyota or even a Lincoln Navigator. No more Fords for me period. I have had nothing, but problems and so called "kinks" since I had the truck.
Problems since I got it in 04 include:-
Tire pressure light keep coming on constantly - no solution from Ford. They don't know why.
The panel in the door was hanging off on the highway on my way to NY and we could feel the breeze from the highway. We had to pay to fix it.
The plastic that covers the seat levers at the side of the seat to change your seating position- they all broke off- cheap plastic.
Something else under the hood- can't remember the name, but it came loose and they had to fix it.
At 20,000 miles, the front brakes went bad. Had to pay for that too.
Don't forget the horn that would not shut off. Went to get a new horn and was told I need a new airbag too because they are connected and cannot work without each other.
Go figure.
Then I was told that the rotors were bad- had to pay for that too.
In a nutshell, I have been messed up by Ford so bad, I don't know whether I am coming or going.
NO more FORDS- EVER AGAIN>
Ummm... Lincoln is Ford... interesting...
Update on my 2004 Expedition.
I got up yesterday morning after my brother who is a mechanic told me to take the truck for another diagnostic at a reputable place. The results were in :-
1. The codes were erased from the trucks computer (by Ford's mechanic of course). This made sense because they had my truck all morning until 5pm that evening trying to find out what was wrong with it before they came up with their version of what's wrong- the engine coils.
Vehicles made after 1995 have a OBD- on board diagnostic equipment. On-Board Diagnostics is the second generation of on-board self-diagnostic equipment on vehicles. This system is designed to provide the driver with an early warning of potentially high emissions, and stores important information about detected malfunctions so that a repair technician can accurately find and fix the problem. A light on the dash, called a Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL), will come on if an emissions related problem is detected.
What this means is that when you take your vehicle in when something is wrong, your vehicle is hooked up to the computer at the dealership or wherever you go and based on the codes in your vehicle, it will tell the mechanic what is wrong with your vehicle. If the codes are erased then the mechanic can put in their own code and basically put whatever they want to make you pay for.
2. I had no engine lights on, but their diagnosis told me that something was seriously wrong with my truck.
3.There were many things that were loosened under the hood. I guess since I was not going to have them do the work that day- loosening things under the hood would definitely make me come back to really have the work done.
All in all as a woman, I know that I have been hoodwinked by Fairway Ford of Augusta. Which leads me to wonder about all the other costly repairs that I had to pay for.
PLEASE DON'T DROP YOUR VEHICLE OFF TO BE SERVICED. Try to stay close by where you can see them do the work so you won't go through what I am now going through with them.
I am going back to the dealership today to ask for the owner and confront them, I am calling the corporate headquarters to report this, the BBB (Better business bureau), the local TV station and if it's not resolved, I will be consulting an attorney.
It's bad enough to be conned when buying a vehicle- all of the hidden gimmicks that appear to be in your best interest. This is not right and I will raise awareness about this under-handedness.
Augusta, Georgia
In the last week I i had to put two ignition coils on my 2002 f-150 truck 75000 miles, both times ford dealership charged 2 hours labor for 15 minutes of work. a total of 263 dollars each time. told had to charge one hour for diagnosis. but this is the third coil. dealer told me they never have trouble with these.
I own a 2000 ford Expedition XLT with approx 80,000 miles. Since I bought the truck 3 yrs ago I have changed 5 different ignition coils. Let me see...#3, #4, #5, #6 and #8 THREE times! That adds up to approx $1500.00 + in total just in coils at the "LOCAL FRIENDLY FORD STEALERSHIP". The last time I took the truck to the dealer for coil #8 (supposedly under the 1yr or 12K miles warranty still) the dealer advised me that the problem was not the coil. Of course not... they stated that I needed a new computer for the vehicle ($900.00)
Needless to say...I'm tackling this coils on my own now. Very simple job and they only cost $50.00 at your local auto parts store. What a bunch of crooks!!!
Ohhh by the way... as soon as I finish paying the truck off...I'm totally done with FORD or "Found On Road Dead"
Fort Lauderdale
Florida.
Wow! Ignition coils what a scam. I am about to buy the OEM versions with plugs on Ebay for $135 for all 8. I will put the dang things in my 2000 Expedition myself. My truck is on the 4th coil at 55k miles, who can afford this craziness, I had a Toyota too for 10 years, not 1 problem in ten years. Lesson here it does pay to spend a bit more totally, who want to get stranded because of a FORD design problem? Not me again. One coil cost me $450 because I was in the middle of nowhere and the guy jacked me.
I am searching for anybody who has experience with the OEM versions of these parts and has installed themselves, I owe 2k on the truck and it's payed off I hate to get rid of it and get into another 30k worth of car or truck, how can Ford get away with this. Anyone with experience in this area please write me todd@zddesign.net. Help it's the ignition coil scam from Ford. Beware!!!
Thanks.
Todd from Oregon.
I have a 2000 Ford Expedition Eddie Bauer with 85K on it. At 72K the #5 Coil went out. At 85K the #8 coil went out. These are getting expensive. I'm told that the heater lines and / or core can leak onto the rearmost coils (#5 & #8) and cause them to fail. Also the seal for the hood can go bad and allow water to drip in there.
Scott, Burlingame, CA.
I have a 2002 Ford Tbird, had #4 and #7 coils replaced in October, today #6 went out, I have 46K. The service manager said this was a Ford problem, not just the TBirds, but the Expeditions and F150's too and Ford is aware, but does nothing. I have spent almost $2000 so far.. I love the car, but this is ridiculous and he said for all they knew another could go next week, or in 20K miles.
I am thinking about starting a suit, any one interested can email me their details at jonibook@yahoo.com.
I bought a 2003 ford expedition 1 week ago. The 3rd day the car started jerking! I took back to the dealer and just got an answer from them yesterday that the ignition coil went out and for me not to worry it's going to be be fixed at no charge to me. the car has 55,000 miles on it. I am debating if I should ask them to give me a different car! after seeing all the comments I'm scared to keep this car!!!
Stephanie
Riverside, Ca.
It's Friday. Just washed the 99' expo to party with a couple of friends later tonight. Got dressed, shined the shoes, sprayed on my cologne and was out the door. When I started her up, the engine sounded rough as if I needed a tune-up all of sudden. I said to myself time for a tune I'll take care of it tomorrow morning. I drove 2 miles in to my 50 mile trip then it died on me. $#$#@^@! I'm stuck. Had it towed to my house. I called a friend to find out if he could loan me his car, no luck.. Anyway my plans for the night have changed. Figure I'd surf the net to track down this problem. This is why I'm here. You guys have me worried.
I bought it used last year. Besides the poor gas mileage, a taught I got a good deal for the truck. So far I replaced the alternator. It gave out on me, on the way back from a trip from Atlantic City. I got hit up for $400 by mechanic that had me. Now this.
As I was reading the previous post. I started to remember a few things the detailing guy at the dealership told me. He said that "Fords Do Not Like Water". Someone mentioned something similar to this above. It must of been the power-washer used earlier today in the front wheel wells & over the hood in my case. And secondly, to add humor this. I remembered a used coil being left behind under the hood, a few week's after I bought the truck.
Still paying for the truck. So I have to buy a new coil. Hopefully it will not cost no $1500.
They Say "Built Ford Tough"
I'm starting to beleive "Built to take your Money"
Stuck on a friday night...
Rico
I have been a Ford fan since 1965 (Mustang fast-back great car)
over the years I continued to buy their products all of them proving to be great vehicles. In 2003 I decided my driving needs would be met by a Expedition. My first indication of problems would be the ball joints. That was acceptable because we had extended warranty, but what with the ignition
coils. Some of my Fords were kept for 12 years and never required major repairs. We bought our expedition used and every thing seemed fine at first. In Dec. 06, we took the vehicle in for a tune up, which proved to be a major event. Informed ignition coil was bad. Replaced 1 and were on our way. Now it's June and had to replace another one and were informed that all of the remaining ones should be replaced...$1,500..wow...If Ford knows this is a problem they should recall them...I'm thinking serious about the Toyota line of trucks now... Used to be Ford forever.. now it's I have to think about that now.
Summit racing has aftermarket coils for 24.99 a peice get them all done at the same time you have a tune up done it will not cost 100's more because they have to take them off anyway they will last longer.
I just bought a used 2000 Expedition. Inspection of the car requires me to get the Left front lower ball joint replaced, and left front disc pros-lube sliders replaced (???). Does anyone know what these are and how much an estimated repair would be for me?
Thanks.
Michael.