2007 Ford Mustang Pony Edition Coupe from North America - Comments

I have no problem with people choosing to buy a V-8 Mustang. What I do have a problem with is all the insults aimed at people who either can't afford or choose not to buy the V-8 and opt for the V-6. As a member of MCA (Mustang Club of America) I support and encourage the ownership and interest in ALL Mustangs. As a Mustang owner it is degrading to see people insulting a HUGE segment of our membership. Hopefully none of the really hateful comments are from our members.

11:18 many of us can afford it, are successful, and paid entirely for our efforts. I move ahead not backwards. We can walk too if we want to go entirely primitive. I could get up at 4 am and walk 3 hours to work.

"Don't confuse sadness for anger, or jealousy for that matter. Affording things is not the problem, discretion is. If you feel like driving 10 mpg cars around, I guess that is your right and freedom as an American. Just don't question why things are spiraling downward with every generation. Rich people don't see it... yet, but they will soon enough."

I'm not sure they EVER will see it. A friend at lunch recently commented about how Jonas Salk GAVE the formula for the polio vaccine to the world because he cared about actually saving children's lives. My friend asked "Can you imagine ANY doctor or pharmaceutical company doing such a thing today?" Of course not. Today a million children dying is not nearly as important as a company making a million dollars or a doctor buying a new Mercedes. People even consider global warming a "hoax" because acknowledging it as the fact that is is too much of an inconvenience. Trying to change things might cost them a few pennies, and money is far more important than the lives of their grandchildren. When fuel prices dropped, people again rushed out to buy 8 mile per gallon SUVs, with no thought to the future OR the environment. We NEVER learn.

On the positive side, Ford's new EcoBoost engines (due out next year) will avoid the highly toxic battery packs of hybrids while delivering the same mileage and more power. I'll be the first in line for a new 230 horsepower EcoBoost 4 Mustang.

I will keep that in mind when the many charities that benefit through the car shows my low MPG supercar assists. One weekend alone we raised over 50k. I wonder how a small import going down the expressway does similar. Do your homework before you condemn.

"11:18 many of us can afford it, are successful, and paid entirely for our efforts. I move ahead not backwards. We can walk too if we want to go entirely primitive. I could get up at 4 am and walk 3 hours to work."

You may just have to do that sooner than you'd like to think if the waste doesn't cease. Moving ahead, as you say, would mean you are using an entirely green form of transportation and not just another gas hog. Probably not the case though is it? So really you are moving backwards as the mileage of most overpriced cars is kind of like it was 35 years ago...pitiful. But hey, you can afford it right?

This is the problem in America and why every other country hates us. We all think we have these rights above and beyond everyone else because we "deserve" or "earned" them.

Just being able to afford something should not give one the right to waste for no good reason other than to satisfy their own whims. Rich people, however, will never learn this lesson until it is too late for us all... oh wait it IS too late for us all.

We'll be really lucky to come out of this mess as more than a third world country with no real significance or power in the world.

I cannot believe how Mustang owners (and I'm sure some non-owners) insult each other over whether they own a six or an eight. This is ridiculous.

In my youth I also owned V8 pony cars, but now in middle-age I am perfectly happy with my 2.0 liter turbo-charged four.

It gives me more performance than my old V8's did, and I get over double the MPG.

My point is - why can't you let people drive what they want, or can afford, without the insults?

"I have no problem with people choosing to buy a V-8 Mustang".

I don't have a problem with people driving a V6 Mustang. What I do have a problem with is people who buy a V6 Mustang and then claim it is fast, they put on a K & N filter, free up the intake, put on dual exhaust (BTW, the noise emanating from your muffler sounds no where near the sound a V8 makes, it sounds clownish) then claim it is as fast as a Mustang GT.

Could you people please distinguish your cars. A Mustang V6 will never be as fast as a Mustang GT. It will never perform like a GT.

A Mustang V6 is neither a muscle car nor a performance car.

Instead of simply moving closer to work, I see coworkers driving an hour each way in these little econo cars. I live 6 minutes and drive a SUV with average MPG. I burn less fuel. To me the excess is you buy the econobox and then neglect actual distance. I could drive a 12 mpg vehicle on 5 gallons a week. I am not selling to buy a new hybrid or some silly looking smart car. I can ride a bike or bus, and still have something decent and fun to drive, however brief. I burn gas driving my lawn clippings and yard waste to a recycle yard on weekends as our trash collection refuses it. Other than this, I actual burn little fuel on weekends

"Instead of simply moving closer to work"

Do you have any idea what the housing market is like these days?

It is a lot easier buying a fuel efficient car for an hour-long commute, than it is trying to sell a house, uproot your family, and "simply" move closer to work.

Our family downsized our home and moved closer to our respective employers. I know that's a horrid thought to maybe sell a bigger place for smaller. Driving 2 extra hours daily was also like working 10 hour days for my wife and I. We still live in a suburb just smaller and closer. Our cars will last a lot longer as well. We also do not have to cram young teens in little cars. We also got a good deal buying to offset the lower price selling.

It's a lot nicer not traveling in bad weather traffic in and out daily as well. Option 2 would have been finding another job to minimize ridiculous travel distance. It got old.

"Instead of simply moving closer to work, I see coworkers driving an hour each way in these little econo cars. I live 6 minutes and drive a SUV with average MPG. I burn less fuel. To me the excess is you buy the econobox and then neglect actual distance. I could drive a 12 mpg vehicle on 5 gallons a week. I am not selling to buy a new hybrid or some silly looking smart car. I can ride a bike or bus, and still have something decent and fun to drive, however brief. I burn gas driving my lawn clippings and yard waste to a recycle yard on weekends as our trash collection refuses it. Other than this, I actual burn little fuel on weekends"

First of all, moving close to work is not always an option. My wife and I work about 35 miles apart so one of us has to commute. In a perfect world there would be the exact job you qualify for (and get for that matter) right next door. Wake up, the dream is only a dream!

Also, here the housing is so much more expensive as you get closer to the city, where the good jobs are, and mass transit doesn't really cover all areas too well. Plus, if everyone lived right in or near the business districts where most jobs are concentrated, you wouldn't be able to move. That would be a fun life! I drive with an average of around 33 mpg, so it isn't too bad overall.

The argument that gets me is that you are using less fuel because you only drive your gas guzzler short distances. To me that still doesn't make sense. If you told me you use it for trips on weekends, and needed the extra space for travel, that would make more sense to me. Just doing short jaunts around town would make me want a small efficient car more. You admit you don't use the car much so why use a wasteful one at all? You can still get a pretty economical car that has enough room for most weekend projects and such and still gets over twice what you get now for mileage. Truthfully, what 12 mpg SUV is really all that fun to drive anyhow? Okay the SRT8 Jeep maybe... but not around town!

"First of all, moving close to work is not always an option. My wife and I work about 35 miles apart so one of us has to commute. In a perfect world there would be the exact job you qualify for (and get for that matter) right next door. Wake up, the dream is only a dream!"

This is a very good point. Housing near your job is not always an option. With that said, you also don't have to opt for a silly-looking (and overpriced) Smart car that is unsafe and gets only marginally better mileage than a real car, or a dangerous and expensive hybrid with the highly toxic and environmentally hazardous batteries.

My wife drives about 15 miles one-way to work. She has an SUV that gets decent mileage, but wanted a more sensible car for better mileage and other long-range driving needs. In January she bought a used Ford Fusion I-4 for only $12,000. It is very nice, with leather and most options Ford offers. It had barely 18,000 miles on it. After switching to full synthetic oil and a K&N high-flow air filter the car gets a consistent 29mpg average and on the freeway with the cruise set on 60 it gets a phenomenal 38mpg. This is better than some hybrids at a fraction of the cost. In addition, it is a very comfortable car with more than adequate power for any driving need. It has been an excellent compromise for her.

"With that said, you also don't have to opt for a silly-looking (and overpriced) Smart car that is unsafe and gets only marginally better mileage than a real car, or a dangerous and expensive hybrid with the highly toxic and environmentally hazardous batteries."

I never said I did opt for any car like that.

I have a Focus that gets 33 mpg every day, has leather seats, sync, and all the extras I need and I got it for about $3,000 below retail out the door. highway mileage would probably be close to 40 if I went 60... however at 75 it stays around 35.

"I am perfectly happy with my 2.0 liter turbo-charged four.

It gives me more performance than my old V8s did, and I get over double the MPG."

What turbo 4 gives you twice the mileage of any V8? I had a WRX 2.0 and it was averaging maybe 23 or 24 mpg. My last Mustang V-8 got around 18-20 mpg in town and upwards of 27 mpg on the highway. In addition to that... most, if not all, turbos take super unleaded and a Mustang runs perfectly fine on 87 octane so the cost difference will eat up any advantage you have in gas mileage. I personally would rather have the extra 90+ hp and no turbo lag for basically the same operating costs.

Don't get me wrong... I loved the WRX, but it was no Mustang in performance. Took a lot of strain on the engine and transmission to even try to keep up with any Mustang. At its best, beating the heck out of it, you could get maybe a 5.9 second 0-60 run... but that was really beating on it. Even a 5.0 Mustang does 0-60 in about 6.2 seconds without really hammering the car that much comparatively. The WRX was also a pretty lousy handling car with the stock tires they used on them. I never swapped them for better tires so I am not sure how much that would improve the cars abilities. The WRX was great in the snow though, and I loved not having to put it away for the winters like my Mustangs.

"What turbo 4 gives you twice the mileage of any V8?" I'd have to say "MOST of them". My last two V-8 Mustangs averaged between 11 and 14 mpg. My Nephew's Dodge turbo 4 averages well over 25.