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Perfect car except rear portion of headliner is a little lower than it should be.
This is one incredible car. The acceleration is unbelievable. It just throws you into the seat, and you have to try to make the shifts before hitting the fuel cuttoff. Unlike any other Mustang I have ever had in acceleration and handling... and I have had a 1970 428SCJ Mach 1, and a 1999 Cobra. SVT got this one right.
Drive a 2002 Trans Am and you won't be praising your Cobra so much...
Well, if the 2002 Trans Am was so great, it's funny that it was discontinued. And drive a Cobra, and see why it's still in the market, and not the Trans Am.
Hi, I'm 25 and I drive a Trans Am. I also have a mullet and drink budweiser, beat my wife and kids. thanks.
Hi, I'm 22 and I have a lot more money than you do. Trust me. I don't understand why people still stereotype Trans Am with mullets and wife beaters. My 2002 Ws6 cost me $45,000. Then I put about $5000 more into it. Do you think I have a mullet or live at a trailer park?
The only reason I can possible conceive that anyone would pick a Mustang over a Trans Am is money. Mustangs are cheap. Who can deny it? A 2002 Trans Am Ws6 will smoke a Cobra easy. You know why they were discontinued, it's because Ford offers a cheap alternative that ignorant people such as yourselves think compares in performance to the other Muscle cars. Well, they don't...and anyone who knows anything beyond the hype will tell you the same thing.
I've driven both... Mustangs aren't in the same league and never will be... and don't worry, the F-body will be back.
Hey Joe Dirt,
I bet the '03 Cobra will eat your Trans Am for breakfast, lunch and dinner. And for a price about 10,000 dollars cheaper.
You mustang men need to give your heads a serious shake. For more than a decade the FireBirds, TransAms and Camaros have been the far superior street machines. Faster and better handling the GM cars were designed for performance. Mustangs were and are far more moderate in their design, and this is what has allowed them to remain in the market after the GM's were out of production. Cheaper, higher riding, and always more similar to a sedan in shape than any serious sports car, Mustangs were a viable option for overweight, middle aged people who couldn't get in and out of the Camaros and TransAms, and also for young people who couldn't afford the GM's.
OK my cuz has a 02 WS6 and my dad has a 01 Roush Stage 3 and I hafta say that without the supercharger yes the WS6 would win, but the WS6 is no longer being produced and are ugly except for the bad azz front end and I could take the difference of the cost of the WS6 buy a 99 cobra do a head job and supercharge and kill a WS6 OK I still like em but come on!!
I think it comes down to this. From 1993 to their demise, GM outperformed Ford. Yes, the new supercharged Ford engines are faster than even the Ws6, but its after the fact. Who know what the F-bodies would be putting out today if they were still in production. GM could have easily s/c their small block too. But as it is, the whole Camaro/Mustang war is over, which depending on how you look at it is both good and bad for the Mustang enthusiast. On the plus, it means less competition for the Mustang and higher sales. On the negative, it means the Mustang is now compared to the Corvette, which with the advent of the 400hp c6 and the upcoming 500hp z06, leaves the Mustang a step behind.
I think they're just two different cars, with different publics. They both like power and speed. If I could choose between the two, I would for sure pick the WS6 TA. Not only for the looks, but because there's no supercharger, it's a bigger engine - 5.7 against 4.6 - and just by swapping some intake and exhaust parts you can bump up the power even more. Think about what a supercharger can do to a TA... Not eve fair to our mustang friends. And for one thing, mustangs are everywhere, I mostly see women driving them. The 01's and 02's WS6 are rare and they turn heads... and will always put dust on mustang's windshields.
Hey Burt Reynolds Wannabes.
If the WS-6 is so great, why is it discontinued?? Why are ALL F bodies discontinued?? Gee, I guess the Chevy "Buy Into It Slogan" is only for their minivans now!!! For the braintrust who was bragging about soaking $45K into his WS-6, the stock 2004 Cobra has 390 HP, and 390 lbs. of torque. Hmm, that seems like more than the 325 HP and 350 lbs. torque that old pushrod Chevy 350 puts out!!! Face it, the Trans Am is a great car for rich nerds who like chrome wheels and fuzzy dice. Oh yeah, and did I mention that the MSRP on a 2004 Cobra is $35K, which seems like a lot less than SOME people spend on their GM equipment.
Let me just say the Firebird & Camaro's were the fastest before they were discontinued (discontinued for what every reason, who really knows why?) Kind of unfair to compare to and 03 or newer Cobra, But if you really want to try...well...OK. Take a (35k or 36k dollar) 03 S/C Cobra and take a (25k or 27k dollar) plain 02 Firebird Formula (with the same great LS1 under the hood,which were making 318 rwhp stock approx.365 crank hp in 01 & 02yrs) and add (7k or 8k dollars) worth of power adder bolt-on's (to make up for price difference).Story over. The Mustang wouldn't stand a chance. And by the way, I wouldn't rag on simplicity of the push rod 8V LS1.It's a very superior efficient powerful engine. If anything why the hell does ford need 4ohcams,4-valves per cyl.,2 timing chains, and a super charger (too many moving parts that can break/expensive to fix/mod).just to get power like that old push rod LS1 chevy? Huh "Eleanor".OK now were even. I think both ford & chevy deserve some hard earned respect.I'am just glad there still some good old powerful american muscle cars rolling around out there. We all got our own preferences.I've got two Trans-Ams:95 converible M-6,& 02 WS6 M-6.love them both, excellent cars!
Well I'll add my two cents.
Yes, the LS1 powered Camaro's and Firebirds were faster than than the GT Mustangs and Stock Cobra's. However, with a blower pulley, chip and headers, a Mustang Cobra pushes well over 500 hp, which will decimate a stock Firebird or Camaro for far less cash.
I love the look of the Camaro's and Firebirds, but for what they offered, they were over-priced.
The stock 7.5 rear-ends are gunk and will break easily if any serious modifications are done to the car. There is a reason that magazines like Super Chevy have tech articles on bolting in 12 bolt rear-ends into these cars. The stock ship-shift is annoying as hell and can be eliminated.
The biggest knock against the F-bodies is build quality and an interior which is better suited to a Chevy Cavalier than a 30 thousand dollar car.
To the guy who paid 45000 for his car, I would have bought an BMW M3 for that money and those will out run an F-body. I can buy an 2001 Camaro SS here in Canada for tops 35000 cdn with under 20000 miles on it. So the F-body is a great car, but they stopped making them because for the money they where over-priced.
Personally for the price difference between a Camaro/Firebird, I would buy a Vette. The Mustang is less powerful, but the Cobra's are great cars and so are the GT's, especially with a supercharger kit.
I respect all three American muscle cars, but don't knock Mustangs, they are great cars and not everybody is made of money... Remember big guy, there are always 911 Turbo's and Ferrari's waiting to embarace you.
"And by the way, I wouldn't rag on simplicity of the push rod 8V LS1.It's a very superior efficient powerful engine. If anything why the hell does ford need 4ohcams,4-valves per cyl.,2 timing chains, and a super charger (too many moving parts that can break/expensive to fix/mod).just to get power like that old push rod LS1 chevy?"
Ever think that there may a bit of a size difference between the 4.6 and 5.7?
I'd love to see a 5.4 engine in the mustang, I don't know why they haven't done that, but it'd make more sense if ford wanted to keep competing with a bigger engine.
However, I'll always love the aerodynamic look of the camaros and won't forget the sound of a exhaust only modified Z28 showin its stuff.
As a owner of a 01 Cobra, a 06 CobaltSS supercharged, and a 97 S-10SS, I'm not pro ford or chevy/gm, I like them both. I am in it for myself and go where I get a better deal and frankly don't care who makes the car.
I looked at a Trans-Am before I bought the Cobra and I did like it, it was slightly quicker than the Cobra in a straight line, but not by much, and it definitely didn't handle or ride better, and the fact that the T/A would have cost $100 dollars more a month (got the Cobra on 0% interest) made the Cobra a no brainer.
The Cobra now has 4.30 gears, nitto drag radials and a few bolt-ons, runs mid to high 12s in the 1/4 mile, and is soon to have a 75-100 shot which will put it well into the 11s, certainly not slow, but a LS-1 with the same mods would be a little faster, so what, I wish people would quit this "my cars faster than your car-my cars better blah, blah, blah crybaby, kindergarten crap, and just drive their cars and enjoy them, and not trash on somebody elses car of choice.
It's not like Ford or GM give these cars away to people that sing their praises, no matter how many good things you say about you car and trash-talk someone elses, You still have to pay dearly for your car.
Besides, you don't hear ricers trashing each others brands, and they are the real enemys here as far as I'm concerned.
And by the way, I got the CobaltSS on 0% too and while slower than the Cobra (mid to high 14s at 97-99mph stock), it gets 29mpg and is much nicer inside than either a F-body or a Mustang. And at $290 a month vs $475 a month for the Cobra (now paid for) it's a much better deal. Just my two cents.
OK, no need in supercharged cobra, just take a mach1 with it's 305+ hp, it might be a bit slower (like 0.1 second o so).but it depends on driver. and ws6 has about 325 hp-so it's nothing to be proud of!yeah and mach1 is regular v8 4.6.i just could imagine what mustang would get with 5.7 engine. if you can get the same performance for less money-so what's wrong with what?nothing!just not all people are rich. and somebody likes mustangs (like I do) and others like gm product (they are good in a some way too).so lets do not fight.