7th Jan 2007, 18:53
Lets see some facts about all those toyota fleet vehicles then.
Cause according to you guys, every company everywhere uses them. *rollseyes*
The whole imports are more elitist and better than everyone else has to stop, cause you won't convince anyone of diddly squat with an attitude like that.
7th Jan 2007, 18:56
I have had company cars as an Industrial Sales Representative since 1984. You will rarely ever see mine at my office... its on the road or in my driveway. Many of us might stop by very briefly once a week or sometimes every other month for a meeting or to pick up literature, spec sheets etc.. I know a # of factory reps and distributors that have company vehicles with the exact situation. Being in my field you know a lot of people with company cars and also what your competition is driving. If you stop by our company lots you will see employees cars... secretaries to the President. You most likely will see company owned vehicles that are delivery oriented only...trucks, vans etc. My first company car was a new Dodge Caravan, then Pontiac 6000's, Tauruses and Crown Vics. Most of our delivery vehicles are Fords from Rangers to Stake bodies. Sorry I have yet to ever meet a factory or distributor salesperson driving a Toyota ever. Theres a possibility that independent Reps might buy one as they typically have car allowances not company cars. The independent Reps I know drive large sedans with trunks to lock up and hide equipment from view. I also know a couple medical sales reps and they drive American sedans as well. I think your best indication of company cars is to go to a trade show and see all our vehicles there at one time. Driving by an office park is only going to show you what inside people drive and its usually their vehicle not the company.
8th Jan 2007, 10:15
Really? Hmmmm, around here I have yet to see a single Ranger used for anything, from construction to delivering pizza. They all use imports.
8th Jan 2007, 15:47
The only place you might see imports used as company vehicles is Japan, so I assume you live there. I've never seen an import company vehicle anywhere in the U.S.
8th Jan 2007, 17:54
Cruising the "office parks" for fleet vehicles---what a really scientific way to collect data on vehicle reliability. So now we're down to looking at pizza delivery vehicles? Quit wasting our time.
8th Jan 2007, 20:46
Pizza delivery vehicles are virtually ALWAYS the cars owned by the employees, not company vehicles. We live in a very affluent suburb and the last time we ordered a pizza it was delivered by a high school kid driving a CLK-320 Mercedes. I hardly think the pizza company furnished THAT!!
8th Jan 2007, 21:27
Sorry, best way to accurately disprove what the original poster said. Or do you think "well, they all use Ford Rangers because my uncle uses them" is good enough evidence.
And LOTS of office parks around here have company vehicles sitting in their lots. Heck, a blood delivery service has ten clearly marked company cars sitting outside near my gym everyday. Then there are all the Hewlett Packard cars (or did you really think EVERY HP employee decided to buy the SAME car, but in different colors) and so on. many many many office parks.
Sorry, in your town they hide their company cars. They don't around here, mainly because the EMPLOYEES are the ones GIVEN the cars so they can DRIVE them to WORK.
But don't let the facts get in the way when you have hearsay as your main evidence.
9th Jan 2007, 10:28
Depends on the company. I've seen pizzas delivered in Lincoln Continentals (can't imagine that driver is making a profit) and then there are other pizza chains that have their OWN pickups (NOT Rangers) that are branded with their logo.
And it's funny the poster who knows "everything" about company cars still cannot recognize that they are bought on what's CHEAPEST not what is most reliable. Case in point is the Ford Taurus which is hardly a paragon of quality, yet it is one of the most common company vehicles. Now, why would that be...
This is the same world over. The "local" auto makers are the ones who offer the best deals and therefore companies use them most.
9th Jan 2007, 10:31
I see, so you believe that glancing at a few delivery vans parked in the vicinity of your gym is a representative sampling of the population of fleet vehicles used throughout the entire country. These are your facts, are they? This is your irrefutable evidence?
People talking about their personal experience with Rangers (which is, after all, the point of this website) make a much more compelling case than you. Sorry.
9th Jan 2007, 11:14
Countless (like, TENS OF THOUSANDS) of companies that use, and have used, domestic trucks for DECADES is hardly "hearsay". It's FACT... pure and simple.
It makes no sense for a company to put 20% MORE into purchasing import vehicles that will also cost 30% MORE to maintain over a 5-year period.
I actually took a course in Practical Economics in college and one of the things we studied was automobiles. Statistics clearly showed that the BEST VALUE in a vehicle was a 4-year-old DOMESTIC vehicle.
9th Jan 2007, 11:49
Never mind, this is my last post on this topic. My gym example was ONE of MANY that I have seen, and it 100% disproves this theory that all company cars are hidden. Plus, you need only go to the Hewlett Packard parking lot, among MANY other firms around here, to see the sea of Tauruses - ALL of them company cars.
9th Jan 2007, 12:48
I bet Hewlett Packards company cars are not a parking lot full of Toyotas... most likely being GM or Ford sedans... I will drive by their large headquarters/mfr facility on Centerville Rd Wilmington Delaware and try to get everyone an update. I have sold there as a factory rep in the past. They are also are one entity not an office park. I will try to get an accurate Toyota count for everyone. Are the blood vehicles Land Cruisers or Sequoias by the way?
31st Jan 2007, 20:15
I have a small business and wanted the most reliable small truck I could find. After talking with several other business owners I opted for the ultra-reliable Ford Ranger. I bought my first one in 1992 and have never regretted the decision to use the Ranger. My repair costs to date are exactly ZERO!!
7th Jan 2007, 16:48
I think the person ranting about cars in office parks needs to define "office parks" and "company cars". Our office parks don't have any company cars parked there. Maybe construction companies (all of whom use domestic trucks) or delivery companies (all of whom generally use Rangers). Office parks generally contain lawyers, engineers, accountants, and other professionals, all of whom own their own vehicles. I guess anyone who knows nothing about cars obviously wouldn't know anything about word definitions either. As for company vehicles, No company I know uses anything but domestic vehicles because they are a much sounder investment. They are less expensive to buy, maintain and service. Those are facts. They can't be argued with no matter how many high school kids driving Corollas try. Our local police department just started using the new Hemi Chargers for police cars. I can assure you, no criminals are rolling on the ground laughing at them.